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Scion of Bartleby vs The Ur-Dragon

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Sadistic Sleuth said:
Ben CleverName said:
Someone want to give me the TLDR explanation for Ur-Dragon's powers?
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Infinity above baseline
Also can summon all dragons and superior to them, including Nicol Bolas
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I see.

The Player at this point in the game transcends infinite timelines himself alongside infinite reflections of said timelines. There are also dream worlds for every living person in the Spiral which are indivudually regarded as being the size of a universe. I'd honestly give the Player the advantage in AP. The Player should also be able to summon The Ice Tita and Fire Tita by scaling although it's not on their profile (yet). Those combined with their wide variety of hax should give them a solid win here.
 
Sure the player has the AP advantage, but doesn't Ur-Dragon's immortalities counter it (I know player can bypass, but this isn't a one-shot)
 
Sadistic Sleuth said:
Sure the player has the AP advantage, but doesn't Ur-Dragon's immortalities counter it (I know player can bypass, but this isn't a one-shot)
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Mid-godly regen (type 3) is nulled by the players magic (debillitate completely nulls it, spells like infection and doom and gloom can severley cripple it, and debilitate in particular, along with dispell all, are passive), type 8 immortality doesn't help much (against the storm/aether titan the player destroyed Storm across all reality in defeating them), and the player has been able to affect the Spider who exists on a higher plane (type 9), so none of the immortalities are really an issue for the player.
 
Now that you brought that up, isn't this pretty much just a hax stomp for the Player? Does Ur-Dragon have any resist towards this sort of thing?
 
Through his Scion spells, yes, but the Player is no where near as powerful in that key as he is in the Divine Paradox key. Those spells are literally what give him the 2-A rating in that key.
 
Sadistic Sleuth said:
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So what can the player do against thought based Mindhax?
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Their base form has passive resistance towards mindhax. They've fought and defeated Medulla, whose whole shtick was being able to mindhax characters who should logically have resistance towards it, and Morganthe, who's used the Song of Creation to mindhax people before.

He can also strengthen his will through Death magic. Failing that there's Dispel All and Debilitate, both of which are passive as well and have worked against other passive abilities.

He also has his own form of mindhax through Death magic and Shadow magic.
 
Sadistic Sleuth said:
k

So what can the player do against thought based Mindhax?
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He also has resistance to Spiders mind hax which is on an entire race of 2-A beings across an entire universe. Also, Medullas mind hax is thought based and he scales to the bat who resisted that
 
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