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Scaling Fossil Pokemon

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After making Rampardos' profile, this thought came to me. Media, unlike every single starter, tries to imply the equalness of these Pokemon regardless of region. Part of me believes that they try to imply that Aerodactlyl>all other fossil Pokemon. So I come to the community to ask. Should all fossil Pokemon scale off of 8-A Rampardos, or should it only apply to Rampardos and maybe Bastiodon?
 
I don't remember any indication that dictates the Fossil Pokemon as being comparable to each other across regions since they don't appear together often.

I can definitely see scaling Bastiodon to Rampardos or Kabutops to Omastar, but not Aerodactyl to Tyrantrum.

Of course, feel free to correct me since my memory outside of the games is fuzzy at best.
 
It's more on the fact that unlike starters, fossils aren't region locked, can be found buried in the same place, (In Johto (remake), Sinnoh, Hoenn (Remake)?, Unova, and Kalos) making the implication that they've interacted with each other.
 
Oh, alright.

You have a point, given that you can get virtually every not-version locked fossil simply by smashing rocks in Kalos' cave (can't remember it right now) and you can dig up fossils in the Underground in Sinnoh.

Seems alright then, but extra input might be necessary.
 
I dont know

Bastiodon and Rampardos both play different roles in their stats

Rampardos is attack, and Bastiodon is defense

therefore, i dont think its wise to compare bastiodon with Rampardos, and instead compare the durability of bastiodon, to the AP of rampardos
 
The Alolan Pokedex implies that they Rampardos and Bastiodon have fought to the death before

"It lived in the same environments as Rampardos. Their fossils have been found together—seemingly from after they'd fought to the finish."
 
If there's statements saying that all the fossil Pokemon are pretty much equal to each other, then they should scale. However, I'm unsure where it implies they're equals. In Gen I, for example, you are literally told to chose at random between Kabutops' or Omastar's fossils, and neither are mentioned in the others' entries. I don't really remember the fossil experiences in other games, despite me not even playing Gen I, but I never got the feeling that "they're equals," rather that they're both useful in their own way.

Rampardos and Bastiodon should definitely scale based on that Alolan entry, though.
 
I don't think Fossil pokemon should be scaled of to each other unless the entry implies interaction or comparison. It's pretty difficult to believe Omastar is comparable to the like of.....let's say Tyrantrum. Scaling Bastiodon to Rampardos is fine, though.
 
I don't really think they should scale either, unless stated. Also, aren't Fossil Pokemon from different time eras and such?

Bastiodon and Rampardos is fine as others have stated before, though.
 
Dino Ranger Black said:
I don't think Fossil pokemon should be scaled of to each other unless the entry implies interaction or comparison. It's pretty difficult to believe Omastar is comparable to the like of.....let's say Tyrantrum. Scaling Bastiodon to Rampardos is fine, though.
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I agree, scaling Omastar to Tyrantrum just because their fossil pokemon is like scaling Zapdos to zygard just because their legendary Pokemon
 
I will like to add input on this. I do not think that scaling Fossil Pokemons will not work unless it was stated as so on the Pokedex for them. Also I do recall we should not be using game stats as it is purely game mechanic IIRC. I am well versed in the Gen 3 stuff so you can ask me about it.
 
I agree, scaling Omastar to Tyrantrum just because their fossil pokemon is like scaling Zapdos to zygard just because their legendary Pokemon

Bad Example bruh
 
@Everyone

Cal's point is the fact that Fossil Pokemon have been found in the same relative areas (i.e. all over Sinnoh in the Underground and in the same cave in Kalos). For that reason, it can be said that they lived within the same general area and were likely to have fought given their naturally territorial natures.

That said, I'm worried that it may just be a case of layering in that different dinosaurs can live in the same area but in different time periods, but maybe I'm overthinking this.
 
The name Tyrantrum gave me cancer.

But yeah, I agree with others with that scaling. Each region's duos would scale to each other, but not to others.

Kabutops could probably scale to Blastoise due to it being a prehistoric shellfish. Yeah, weak reasoning. Ignore this rambling.
 
I was about to say what DRB just said. We don't currently scale regional Pokemon to each other unless its stated in the Dex entries that they've fought.
 
Dino Ranger Black said:
@Reppuzan

But wouldn't that be like scaling all the Pokemon in a region or in present day for the same reason?
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I agree woth this it seems the same as scaling rattata to pidgey since we find them in kanto.
 
When I said the same place, I mean literally the same place. Always. Like, same cave, same ruins, and everything. Not even Rattata and Pidgey have that.
 
While that may be true, I feel like it'd be very off to assume all the Pokemon in the ancient world were comparable to each other in power just because they're found in the same area. It is likely they only did that so that you had a quick and easy place to find all of them. For example, Cradily's Pokedex entries directly state that it straight up lives in the water roaming for food to catch, both in shallow water and on the ocean floor. I doubt that any of the other fossil Pokemon sans Armaldo did anything with water outside of drinking it.
 
Realized that after I posted it, whoops.

Still stands that Cradily probably doesn't scale from Rampardos, at least not directly, due to their completely different environments of living.
 
they shouldnt scale imho, being able to catch every fossil in the recent regions serves the purpose of helping getting them, also, just saying, there is no reason for them to have been alive in the same age (like in actual fossils).
 
After pondering the fact that Kabutops and Carracosta probably eat my argument for lunch, figuratively and literally, I'd be willing to accept a "Possibly 8-A" rating for the lot of them and solid 8-A for Bastiodon for being able to fight Rampardos. Implying equality probably doesn't warrant a solid rating unless there is a direct statement, imo.
 
The real cal howard said:
I went browsing. Every single one that has a time in existence was 100 million years.
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Well, if they have a date and they can be found in the same place, then you can pull that, tho only speculating, so you can only get a "Possibly" out of it.
 
Most of the other fossil pokemon only have 9-B feats (Omastar, Armaldo, Carracosta) so 9-B, possibly 8-A?
 
Natural Diamonds can be shattered by steel, but it can cut through steel like it was butter when it comes to a drill bit having those diamonds in them. Natural Diamonds can only be scratched by another material on a similar level of hardness. Bascially Natural Diamonds have less durability, but more AP in this case.

10-B for durability is what I saying here for a natural diamond, but its AP will be higher than that.
 
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