SBR Circular Scaling

[Kyschan21]

So while I was looking at Funny Valentine's page, it says he scales to Diego Brando, while Diego scales to Gyro's Steel Balls. But that just ends up with it going full circle with the steel balls scaling from hurting D4C, who got his rating from surviving an attack from Diego and the steel balls. With nearly all the characters of the part scaling from these 3, are there any calculation that supports them being the tier they are?

 

[Kyschan21]

bump

 

[Eficiente]

Diego's durability scales to Gyro's AP, which scales from damaging D4C, whose durability scales from resisting an attack of ACT4, whose AP scales from damaging THE WORLD, who somehow should scale to DIO's The World. This is as accurate as its sounds. Especially considering that Diego is MFTL in a rase while being able to turn his horse into a dino and all of the ACTs have to same tier.

I was going to make a thread about this but I want to finish Part 8 before that.

 

[Kyschan21]

Ah, I guess that sounds reasonable. THE WORLD hasn't done much that would scale it to the original The World, but I guess there's nothing that said it doesn't either

 

[Eficiente]

I can see that being a thing as a Likely/Possibly, but no as it is now. Also the Steel Balls kinda ignore dura via Biological Manip that Gyro's profile doesn't have, this would mess the scaling a lot.

 

[Kyschan21]

Yeah, that would mess with the scaling. But at least there's some reasoning to it

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Its the same stand, so of course The World would have the same tier

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Diego's durability scales to Gyro's AP, which scales from damaging D4C, whose durability scales from resisting an attack of ACT4, whose AP scales from damaging THE WORLD, who somehow should scale to DIO's The World. This is as accurate as its sounds. Especially considering that Diego is MFTL in a rase while being able to turn his horse into a dino and all of the ACTs have to same tier.
I was going to make a thread about this but I want to finish Part 8 before that.

Diego does not have MFTL travel speed, just combat speed

 

[Eficiente]

What about the Steel Balls ignoring dura?

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Didn't Tusk act 4 made a crater? You could calc that.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

IIRC, doesn't The World have the same stats?

 

[Eficiente]

Stand stats are inconsistent, and you have to call it THE WORLD. I clarify again, I'm not 100% against this.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

To be far, it's more supporting the idea they are more the same then Star Platinum and Za Warudo are

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Didn't Tusk act 4 made a crater? You could calc that.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

What about the Steel Balls ignoring dura?

He didn't have Ball Breaker at the point he performed the feat he scales from

 

[Eficiente]

I wasn't talking about Ball Breaker, his normal Steel Balls.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

They do bypass durability to a point, but they do not do it in the way that was shown there. Its more via the body control

 

[Eficiente]

I'm still skeptical about it, sorry.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Maybe I wasn't clear. The Steel Balls really only have durability negation when they have access to the infinite rotation and ball breaker. Otherwise, the closest they come to bypassing durability is the ability to manipulate the target's limbs, which he did not do in that feat

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Just out of curiosity, why is Ringo Roadagai 10-A? He did hurt Gyro who has 8-B dura.

 

[Eficiente]

If we scale harming humans with 8-B then everything is 8-B, like Lucy nearly killing Valentine. Ringo just has a gun.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

A gun would be 9-C in the real world. Makes no sense that a dude with a gun is just Athlete level.

 

[KLOL506]

Penetration by pressure is a thing, so 9-C or not, it'd still deal huge damage to walls regardless.

 

[KLOL506]

Jotaro drew blood from Josuke, Kaks drew blood fom Pol-pol with a casual elbow. Did I miss anything?