Sayaka Miki vs Gildeguy

[Kaltias]

At least 7-C versions used.

Sayaka Miki: 4 (SD, Scarlet, Homu, Blue)

Gildedguy: 4 (Kep, Nico, Cal, Poin)

Inconclusive:

 

[SomebodyData]

Voting for Sayaka via regen, making any of the attacks only temporarily effective.

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Sayaka takes this. Regen, Pain Nullification, Sleep Manipulation, Life Absorbtion and greater range.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

How quick is her regen? Because Gildedguy fought Bog and shown to be quite willing to exploit the tactic of cutting the opponent to bits and cauterizing the wounds so they don't regrow.

 

[SomebodyData]

She completely regened from a tree impaling her the moment she got removed from it.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

My boi Sayaka takes this for reason above.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sayaka likely would take this, but Gil could probably knock her out, given his sword ko'd someone quite a bit stronger than Sayaka in one shot with a good hit.

 

[SomebodyData]

Someone tried ko-ing her too in PMMM, she was supposed to be knocked out for 3 months but she was up and running a few seconds later.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Huh...

How does her sleep manipulation work?

 

[SomebodyData]

She projects a sound that makes anyone near her asleep.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Would a strong mental resilience good enough to keep you from being possessed give Gildedguy the means to stay awake?

I'm likely gonna vote for Sakuya anyway unless Gildedguy can chunk her (which he probably can, but still)

 

[SomebodyData]

Not that I'm aware of, no. If it was mind manip resistance (a strong one at that) and the sleep manip was from mind manip it would be another story tho.

K

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Would a strong mental resilience good enough to keep you from being possessed give Gildedguy the means to stay awake?

I'm likely gonna vote for Sakuya anyway unless Gildedguy can chunk her (which he probably can, but still)

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Now I want Sayaka vs Jigglypuff ovo

 

[Nico-v11]

Sayaka at which point in time are we talking about? If it's the one from the anime series then she's actually the worst fighter among Magical Girls and isn't an experienced fighter, only till Rebellion.

 

[SomebodyData]

Judging by the tiers, its the anime one. Though it probably should be noted she actually becomes quite experienced near the end of that.

 

[Nico-v11]

She ends up dead still actually if you remember

 

[Nico-v11]

Actually no she's not experienced at all by the end of the anime, although I haven't read the Wraith Arc that's manga only which follows after the anime.

 

[SomebodyData]

Because her soul gem gets corrupted.

Because she had no grief seeds.

Context is necessary.

Wraith Arc doesn't matter here, considering she is only a character for like, 2 chapters.

 

[Scarletmoon56]

Now I want Sayaka vs Jigglypuff ovo

Then make it 0v0

 

[Nico-v11]

I mean in the anime you don't see nearly enough of her after her first death to really say that she's improved so much.

 

[SomebodyData]

You mean other than killing like 2-3 witches by herself? While being the weakest magical girl?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I thought Homura is the weakest magical girl.

 

[Kaltias]

My boi Sayaka

Wait wot

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Just read Different Story, and there is a flashback where she did really look like a boy.

 

[SomebodyData]

That explains why she got friendzoned

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Nah, Homura just let them win. She know she can murderize her opponents with no effort.

Also, that guy removes the thread again.

 

[SomebodyData]

Noticed

 

[Nico-v11]

You mean other than killing like 2-3 witches by herself? While being the weakest magical girl?

Hmm refresh my memory on that part, I have no recollection of that

 

[Kaltias]

Elly and Elsa Maria, and several more off-screen

 

[Scarletmoon56]

@Nico H.N Elly and Elsa Maria

 

[Nico-v11]

Oh my bad I thought you meant killing 2-3 witches at the same time

 

[Nico-v11]

I mean all things considered it's not that impressive, she still gets stomped by the other magical girls and isn't very skilled, mostly being the "hit it till it dies" type.

I mean Kyoko completely dominated her and would have at any point in the anime.

 

[Kaltias]

Yeah but Kyoko is city level.

 

[SomebodyData]

>Not that impressive

Have you not seen what most witches can do?

>Still gets stomped

Well yeah, you're comparing her to "I fought the AoC and survived longer than most" Mami and Homu "26 Year old" Homu.

>Kyoko dominated her

Have you seen the gap between Kyoko and Sayaka in physical stats, much less experience?

Just because Sayaka is relatively not that great in a haxxed and featful verse doesn't mean she can't compete with other characters.

 

[SomebodyData]

Its like arguing Krillin isn't smart because he can't beat Frieza in the Namek Saga.

 

[Nico-v11]

That's odd.....regardless I'm convinced Gildedguy is a better fighter and his armor allows him to tank a lot of her hits and it regenerates too.

Although that sleep manipulation is tricky.

 

[SomebodyData]

You have a point that she might not be as skilled as Gilded, but having your regen restricted to your armor only means that it would take a bit longer.

She also has her Neverending Melody attack which accelerates her already fast regen.

 

[Kaltias]

So Nico you are voting someone?

 

[Nico-v11]

Yeah I'm voting Sayaka due to versatility. Also she's able to create platforms in midair (like Weiss' glyphs) which should be added to her profile.