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Nahhh i’m not going to touch this lol, also why Musashi exactly? Okita need more love
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It's infinite, she's sifting through an infinite number of futures and picks one true outcome. She views infinite futures but she isn't Manipulating infinite futures just one if that's what you mean?It's only 1 future that's being limited to only one.
A man of ******* culture.Nahhh i’m not going to touch this lol, also why Musashi exactly? Okita need more love
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Yes... NoShe views infinite futures but she isn't Manipulating infinite futures just one if that's what you mean?
Zoro at the moment scales to baseline 6-C because he one shot a character that scales to 4 Gigatons. So basically: 4.3 Gigatons = Base Zoro < Zoro with Haki (can one shot those comparable to his base) < Asura.Isn't it in character for Zoro to just go for the kill if he foresees that it's literally impossible to counter her hax anyway?
Also, is it within the realm of possibility that she one shots Zoro? What 6-C does she scale to, and what 6-C does Zoro scale to (for now)
Yee but all of that is still in 1 futureIt's infinite, she's sifting through an infinite number of futures and picks one true outcome
You can't create another futur without fate hax. What he can do is defeat her before she use the eyes.The issue is.
She narrows infinite futures into 1 via fate hax
Zoro foresees that one and creates another by countering that attack through his Kenbunshoku. It's nearly impossible to pin who wins if we keep arguing "she creates her best outcome vs he'll counter that outcome because he'd foresee it." The inconclusion in this is the fact that we never saw her use it on anyone who could foresee her using that (definitively, not foresee thousands of possibilities and she just goes for thousands -and one-)
What's the difference in AP required to one shot a character anyway? Wasn't in 7x?Zoro at the moment scales to baseline 6-C because he one shot a character that scales to 4 Gigatons. So basically: 4.3 Gigatons = Base Zoro < Zoro with Haki (can one shot those comparable to his base) < Asura.
I think the 6-C servants scale to 20 something Gigatons.
Explain further if you can? I'm lost unless you mean that one future has infinite outcomes.Yee but all of that is still in 1 future
YeahWhat's the difference in AP required to one shot a character anyway? Wasn't in 7x?
He can't change fate, he doesn't have fate manipulation nor it exist another fate for this action. She litteraly erased all other possible futur than this one.By "creating another" I don't mean he literally changes fate, I mean he just reacts to that unexpeted outcome because his Kenbunshoku would allow him to. Get Ritsuka on the sidelines so Musashi gets a command seal boost.
The only way fate altering is at play here is through her shifting through all those realities, but it has no effect in her actually ATTACKING is the thing. That's still entirely dependant on her, and that's why she couldn't land a blow on Ivan even with it before everyone else started getting involved so she got the tusk.
One future has infinite outcomes and she is erasing those infinite outcomes into 1... But there are still other futures she is doing nothing to.Explain further if you can? I'm lost unless you mean that one future has infinite outcomes.
Then shouldn't Zoro scale to 30.1 gigaton, if he's strong enough to one shot a 4.3 gigaton character?Yeah
No. He's just Massively above 4 gigsThen shouldn't Zoro scale to 30.1 gigaton, if he's strong enough to one shot a 4.3 gigaton character?
That's literally what I've been saying the whole time. He isn't creating another future, he's just changing the future she lands on by taking an action she wouldn't account for because of his future sight.Well technically Kenbunshoku Haki users can indirectly change the future with their actions, it's a major reason why when two Kenbunshoku Haki users of Future Sight use fight the outcome they see didn't happen accordingly. Within that small window they see what's about to happen and they do whatever to change it.
However it's a bit different whenever the opponent can also manipulate said future, now she isn't doing Yhwach levels of fuckery since she either attacks through the future to cut limbs off or basically uses the auto win button.
They can change their futur not creating one when no other exist.Well technically Kenbunshoku Haki users can indirectly change the future with their actions, it's a major reason why when two Kenbunshoku Haki users of Future Sight use fight the outcome they see didn't happen accordingly. Within that small window they see what's about to happen and they do whatever to change it.
However it's a bit different whenever the opponent can also manipulate said future, now she isn't doing Yhwach levels of fuckery since she either attacks through the future to cut limbs off or basically uses the auto win button.
Massively, but without quantity?No. He's just Massively above 4 gigs
But it doesn't exist another futur as she cut all of them, it's the principe of her ability, it's what we are saying the whole time.That's literally what I've been saying the whole time. He isn't creating another future, he's just changing the future she lands on by taking an action she wouldn't account for because of his future sight.
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It just means he upscales nothing moreMassively, but without quantity?How does that work..
So even if you time travel you will get hit...But it doesn't exist another futur as she cut all of them, it's the principe of her ability, it's what we are saying the whole time.
Another future doesn't need to exist. That same future becomes the present and Zoro's precognition changes it in the present of that future........ God, this got way more theoretical than I thought.But it doesn't exist another futur as she cut all of them, it's the principe of her ability, it's what we are saying the whole time.
Huh no? It's not how it work, you have one action, let take as here cutting is right arm. She cut all other possibilities except one where she cut it.Another future doesn't need to exist. That same future becomes the present and Zoro's precognition changes it in the present of that future........ God, this got way more theoretical than I thought.
Infinite futur as universe? Anyways i don't understand what you don't understand.Well I guess flash, reverse flash and many more that can travel to infinite futures will get hit... Gg
What you are saying is lowkey Law Manipulation I thinkHuh no? It's not how it work, you have one action, let take as here cutting is right arm. She cut all other possibilities except one where she cut it.
He see that she will cut his arm, but he would not be able to change it as by her fate manipulation it's the only futur that can happen as it doesn't exist any other.
If he foresees her cutting his arm he wouldn't let her swing her blade to do it in the first place, WHICH IS WHAT LEADS TO ANOTHER FUTURE GETTING CREATED. Not literally, just a different outcome through a course of action created by his own action because of his Kenbunshoku.Huh no? It's not how it work, you have one action, let take as here cutting is right arm. She cut all other possibilities except one where she cut it.
He see that she will cut his arm, but he would not be able to change it as by her fate manipulation it's the only futur that can happen as it doesn't exist any other.
No it's fate, she manipulate fate to have only one existing and so the only one that can happenWhat you are saying is lowkey Law Manipulation
But her Fate Manip would negate that.If he foresees her cutting his arm he wouldn't let her swing her blade to do it in the first place, WHICH IS WHAT LEADS TO ANOTHER FUTURE GETTING CREATED. Not literally, just a different outcome through a course of action created by his own action because of his Kenbunshoku.
You think me saying "he'll make a new future" is literal? Of course not-
But he can't it's the whole point of fate manipulation, how it's hard to understand? It's not just here chosing a futur it's her cutting all the other futur so only this one can happen, it's a magical word called fate hax.If he foresees her cutting his arm he wouldn't let her swing her blade to do it in the first place, WHICH IS WHAT LEADS TO ANOTHER FUTURE GETTING CREATED. Not literally, just a different outcome through a course of action created by his own action because of his Kenbunshoku.
You think me saying "he'll make a new future" is literal? Of course not-
You can change fate by seeing the future...No it's fate, she manipulate fate to have only one existing and so the only one that can happen
The future left by Musashi will happen even if it means space time itself will need to be bent as only a single possible future exists at that moment and it will be realisedAnother future doesn't need to exist. That same future becomes the present and Zoro's precognition changes it in the present of that future........ God, this got way more theoretical than I thought.
Not if any other future simply doesn't existYou can change fate by seeing the future...
It's simple fate need to exist to be changed, she litteraly make a single outcome being the fate, you don't have other fate only this one, it doesn't exist any possibility of changing it.You can change fate by seeing the future...