Sans fights a Suicidal Janitor

[PaChi2]

Discs: Whitesnake can generate discs from other living beings in two formats: Memory Discs and Stand (the soul) Discs. Memory Discs can be read and see the memories of the target, and Stand Discs contain a Stand or soul of the target and can be used to obtain and use said Stand and its ability. These discs, once created, will always exist, even in Whitesnake's death.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Apparently the soul in JoJo is made up of the mind and stand. Hence a facet. Although ya could say a stand the the "soul" facet of the soul.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Going off the white bio anyeay.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Discs: Whitesnake can generate discs from other living beings in two formats: Memory Discs and Stand (the soul) Discs. Memory Discs can be read and see the memories of the target, and Stand Discs contain a Stand or soul of the target and can be used to obtain and use said Stand and its ability. These discs, once created, will always exist, even in Whitesnake's death.

is that a quote from the wiki or a quote from the bio?

 

[Mand21]

Spite thread.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

HtH is made out of soul right? What stops sans from attacking that, or force choking it out of him with blue magic?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

No, it isn't. Its made out of stand energy, which is only partially made of soul.

Attacking it won't help him, how would it?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Not attacking it, teleporting it outside of his body and keeping it away with telwkinesis

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

What exactly is he removing? HtH is not the kind of stand that has a physical body. The disk can only be removed while he is unconcious

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

why was his match againt Sans removed?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It does not need to be phisical, he can affect non corporeals, and its nlf to assume it just resist teleportation whitout proof

 

[DMUA]

Highway to hell doesn't activate like a normal stand. Sans can't just blast it, it only activates when McQueen takes damage, by which case Sans would have to blast himself.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But he can teleport or TK it

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

It does not need to be phisical, he can affect non corporeals, and its nlf to assume it just resist teleportation whitout proof

again, what exactly is he teleporting? HtH is not that kind of stand. Its probably better to think of it more like a technique or 'effect' with the propellers just appearing sometimes to show it is taking effect. HtH is more like Scary Monsters or Schott Key #1 than it is Star Platinum or Mandom.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He can teleport many things, magic contructs, people, souls and likely DT as well.

Can HtH even recreate dammage to the soul?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It takes the form of propellers that appear while replicating the damage.

This directly says that the propellers are the stand, so a crt is needed if you want to ignore that

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

He can teleport many things, magic contructs, people, souls and likely DT as well.
Can HtH even recreate dammage to the soul?

Ok, so what is he teleporting? HtH has no 'form.' no more than Kaiyoken or All Fiction has a form.

I mean if you do manage to remove or destroy McQueen's soul it probably won't make much of a difference. He resists it, and was able to survive without it. Souls in jojo don't work like that, but it likely could considering all stands can interact with souls. Verse equilization makes this a weird case

It takes the form of propellers that appear while replicating the damage. This directly says that the propellers are the stand, so a crt is needed if you want to ignore that

yes, but it is still functional more as a technique. The stand appears there, but they do not always do and do not have to. Even if you get rid of the propellers, the effect stays

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He can teleport what he wishes, souls, the essence of a soul, magic etc.

SOULSs arent just like souls, they represent someones very being, and kill on their destruction, and they also collect minds.

And it being connected to souls is a poor excuse for it to replicate damage done to it

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

He can teleport what he wishes, souls, the essence of a soul, magic etc.
SOULSs arent just like souls, they represent someones very being, and kill on their destruction, and they also collect minds.

And it being connected to souls is a poor excuse for it to replicate damage done to it

Ok. As I said several times before, What Is he Teleporting?

Verse equilization my guy.

that's not what i said. i said that all stands can effect souls

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And i already anwered that, he is teleporting SOULs (non corporeal manifestation of mind and body), DT (noncorporeal ectoplasma), magic and phisical objects, its done through space time manipulation.

Yes, but sans attacks SOULs, not souls, there is a difference.

But i am talking about SOULs, ut work completly differently, only sharing name.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

No, I mean what exactly is he teleporting out of McQueen that will get rid of HtH. None of the things you described will get rid of it

Well, if we don't equalise the verse then McQueen doesn't have a SOUL then does he?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Giving him a SOUL does not mean that we equalize it with souls.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And he could teleport the disk.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Giving him a SOUL does not mean that we equalize it with souls.

But McQueen didnt have one originally so he wouldnt need one even if you have him one

And no, the disk can only be taken while he is already unconcious and it has to be by a stand user

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But he has a mind and body, SOULs are culminations of those.

NLF, assuming it cannot be teleported via space time manipulation is purely headcanon for you.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

In that case, how is that any different from just attacking the body and soul at the same time? If he does, then sans gets the damage too. GG

The disk does not even manifest or technically even exist unless he is unconcious. You assume its head canon cuz you seem to not know about the series. If anyone here is using head canon its you, and on a verse you seem to know almost nothing about no less lol

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Its different as the bodies of the humans attacked were not harmed. The SOULs dura scales to the body, but it does not reflect damage to it.

Minds, on the other hand, are inside SOULs, and can be destroyed this way.


While i do not know much about the verse, mind destruction seems about enough to kill him, and sans can TK his soul away from his body, and I doubt that HtH can reflect damage done to the mind.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

First off, scans of all this. And again, why would McQueen recieve a SOUL under verse equilization?

Depends on the kind. HtH passes all negetive effects, so the kind matters. McQueen was able to remain active even after having both pieces of his soul which includes a piece of his mind removed.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Depends on the kind. HtH passes all negetive effects, so the kind matters. McQueen was able to remain active even after having both pieces of his soul which includes a piece of his mind removed.

Actually hermes had give the mind disc back.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Then again he may have stayed active awhile when that did happen. For a minute or two anyway .

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

First off, scans of all this. And again, why would McQueen recieve a SOUL under verse equilization?

Depends on the kind. HtH passes all negetive effects, so the kind matters. McQueen was able to remain active even after having both pieces of his soul which includes a piece of his mind removed.

Asriels fight directly shows you talking with siuls, omega flowey fight you talk with the children.

The body of dead children can be found by the castle, if thats what your talking about.

Still, has it ever shown, or was stated to be able to pass damage to the mind?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I don't see any scans from you my guy.

Define damage, because anything with pain gets passed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Because I am on a phone. The whole lore depends on bodies staying intact if not, tiriel couldnt have gotten charas body, and the whole genocide route would be impossible.

No, it has been never described that way, frisk took damage to the soul continously with no showings, and NLF to assume it can reflect damage to the mind.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

In that case, we can wait to continue until you obtain scans

I mean it can transfer brain damage, but that's probably not what you are refering to lol

 

[Mand21]

Brain and mind are different. If someone sexually assaults TMQ, will he reflect the trauma to the person doing it? I bet not.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Just... Look at the undertale wiki for the 8 humans. I am not getting my computer repaired for quiet a bit.