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Sanji downgrade ?
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Zoro and Sanji are equal according to WoG and consistency in the plot and feats. He stays where he is.
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@PaChi - True, but only when he got serious, but even then, it was only low-end 7-A. He and Sanji scale ^ Elizabello.
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That is EXACTLY my point, Zoro has not even used asura yet while Sanji uses DJ in almost every single fight. They are still portrayed as equals.CinCameron20 said:
Sanji even uses DJ against the pacifista which Zoro only uses his base form against. Oda-san is clearly showing DJ Sanji = Base Zoro.
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If he doesn't scale to Regular Zoro then he should not scale to asura Zoro for sure, he definitely does not deserve high 7-a at all.
He should (in DJ mode) be equal to base Zoro by logic. Being equal to asura Zoro is just illogical. Especially based on the pacifista scene, which pretty much said DJ Sanji = Base Zoro.
He should (in DJ mode) be equal to base Zoro by logic. Being equal to asura Zoro is just illogical. Especially based on the pacifista scene, which pretty much said DJ Sanji = Base Zoro.
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I trust Cameron's judgement regarding One Piece. In addition, I also have the impression that Sanji and Zoro are equal in terms of raw power, but that Zoro is more dangerous due to using bladed weaponry.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q-aERpwkNs
Base Zoro and DJ Sanji clearly portrayed as equal.
DJ Sanji scaling to Asura Zoro is laughable.
Base Zoro and DJ Sanji clearly portrayed as equal.
DJ Sanji scaling to Asura Zoro is laughable.
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High 7-A comes from the use of Asura which triples Zoro's AP. 360 Megaton multiplied by 3 is High 7-A. And DJ should scale to Asura due to them both being portrayed as Last Resort attacks ( I.E Asura one shotting Kaku and DJ one shotting Jabra.) There's no need to downgrade Sanji.
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DJ may have once been a last resort attack but Sanji now uses it even on fodder as shown above.
If anything by feats base Zoro is stronger than DJ Sanji.
And if DJ really is Sanji's last resort attack then that proves that Zoro >>> Sanji as Zoro equalled Sanji's "Last Resort Attack" with a casual 1-handed sword slash from his weakest sword.
If anything by feats base Zoro is stronger than DJ Sanji.
And if DJ really is Sanji's last resort attack then that proves that Zoro >>> Sanji as Zoro equalled Sanji's "Last Resort Attack" with a casual 1-handed sword slash from his weakest sword.
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DJ is pretty far from a last resort attack now though. He uses it very commonly whereas Zoro is yet to use Asura. By feats, nothing Sanji has done post-TS has been portrayed as being equal to anything Zoro has done.Knightofannihilation666 said:
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Sorry, I went 40ish hours without sleep due to work, classwork, and I'm still in the final stages after moving into a new house, so I've been a little busy.
I understand that Sanji has been displayed using Diable Jambe quite frequently and shouldn't be much stronger than Base Zoro, or more than equal, so I suppose that he can be downgraded to At least 7-A for Dressrosa and WholeCake.
Also, unrelated, but needs to be brushed up, Zoro's description for his Alabasta stats needs to be revised. For Alabasta arc, he is 8-A due to being an even match for Luffy in their fight, not the reasoning listed.
I understand that Sanji has been displayed using Diable Jambe quite frequently and shouldn't be much stronger than Base Zoro, or more than equal, so I suppose that he can be downgraded to At least 7-A for Dressrosa and WholeCake.
Also, unrelated, but needs to be brushed up, Zoro's description for his Alabasta stats needs to be revised. For Alabasta arc, he is 8-A due to being an even match for Luffy in their fight, not the reasoning listed.
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I'll await the profiles to be unlocked and get right to it.
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changes applied. Both can be locked and this thread may be closed as it is concluded.
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Oops, looking at 3 different keys with the same tier threw me off slightly... Then "At least" needs to be added Q_Q.
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Shouldn't Sanji's Dressrosa Arc tab and his Whole Cake Island tab be combined? The only difference is a 'possibly higher' on his speed which can be included just by putting in the Oven note in brackets after the Doflamingo note.
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Sanji from Punk Hazard to Whole Cake has had negligible changes at best.
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Made a separate CRT for that: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1455046
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@Ant - yes, it has! The thread can be closed now.
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