Sanic vs Saness

[Apatheticskell]

8-A Sonic and 8-C Sans used

Both in base form.

Both Bloodlusted(Natural).

No chaos emeralds.

Both start Dozens of metres away from each other.

Battle takes place in the Judgement Hall.

Speed is EQUALIZED

Sans: 12 (Dragonboi9191, Videogamer1265, Risci-viragosi, Superweeb2987, Jamesthetaker, Arceus0x, Niccorkirby, Uselessnoob245, ThePixelKirby, Psychomaster35, Junkoposter, Inksanes)

Sonic the Hedeghog: 12 (Maverick Zero X, Blueblur24, Misogi2, ShakeResounding, ShadowWarrior199, TISSG7Redgrave, Just a Random Butler, Lightbuster30, Epsilon R, qGalceonGamez471, PickAPoison963, Dat Dot)

Inconclusive: 1 (Paulo.junior.969)

 

[Apatheticskell]

Bump.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Bump.

 

[Dragonboi9191]

Speed equalised? Sans uses spam, and you have one dead sanic. Tp is also going to be huge.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Bump and a vote for Sans.

 

[Hardcorenerd]

Sans FRA.

 

[Videogamer1265]

Sans FRA.

 

[KarmatheKing]

Sans via tp and soul hax.

 

[Calciumandbones]

Sans for DragonBoi's reasons.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Sans wim rather easily fra.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Can't Sonic just turn him into rings?

 

[Apatheticskell]

Can't he just teleport away? Also one more vote and grace begins.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I don't know, it doesn't seem to travel, and the page says Sonic's abilities have hundreds of meters of range, plus Sans wouldn't be aware of Sonic's abilities.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Sans always gets the first attack it's just part of his HAX.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No, it is not.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Gameplay mechanics.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Regardless SOUL hax is just to OP for sanic.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, you're right, Sans could kill Sonic really quickly by destroying his soul, in the same way Sonic could just finish Sans off with Ring Time; both have ways to instantly win here, specially when bloodlusted.

 

[Apatheticskell]

You vote incon?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I guess? I'm not even sure why you counted me as voting for Sonic when I never actually said so.

 

[Apatheticskell]

One vote and grace begins.

I guess,

 

[Waluigiisomnipotent]

Sans because of Gasterblasters, bone attacks, tp, gravity manipulation, soul manipulation and telekinesis

 

[Apatheticskell]

Counted. Grace has begun.

 

[Szmiit]

Does Sonic have ANYTHING without speed and transformation items?

 

[Apatheticskell]

IDK.

 

[Szmiit]

So you sasically took away his all abilities... Is't it kinda against the rules? It doesn't feel fair.

 

[Apatheticskell]

No it isn't.

Many people put a character against another, far more powerful character however they have to restrict feats to avoid stomp matches.

 

[Szmiit]

I'm not talking some. I'm talking all. How is Sonic wo powers vs Sans with powers not a stomp. Without speed equalized there is place for disscusion.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Sonic can turn people into rings.

 

[Szmiit]

How does Ring Time work?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

The opponent turns into rings as soon as he gets within Sonic's range.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I mean, that range seems like five meters at most.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

"Hundreds of meters with his abilities"

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

You can't assume all his abilities have that range when it's litirally false. Only because most of his skills have that range not all do.

Or are we gonna say that composite human can grapple you into submission from several kilometers away?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Then go complain to whoever put that in the page, not to me.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No. Because your logic is the flawed one. Only because most skills have that range doesn't mean everything does. The page doesn't need to explain the specific range of every skill he has.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It's pretty simple: I follow what's written on the page, if it is on the page, then the character has it, and if it isn't on the page, then the character doesn't have it, because that's the entire point of this site having pages in the first place, if I didn't want to follow the pages, I would be debating in some other site, not here; if the page in question is wrong, then go complain to whoever wrote it, not to me.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

First of all, your are veing porpusfully obtuse. You know that it's range is nowhere near that, and are going into semathics to say it is.

Secondly, the pages are for indexing, but last time I read the rules for them it litirally said that pages cannot be perfect.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If I were to give my own opinion about stats on threads like this, I would just start saying a bunch of stuff that contradicts what is on the page, because there are dozens of pages here that I completely disagree with, but I don't, because as I said, if I didn't want to use the pages, I wouldn't be debating here, I would go to some other site; while I'm debating on this site, I use the stats this site gives me, it's not my fault if they're wrong.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Is there even a way for Sonic to win ? I mean...I don't think the wisps or time/speed break will change the results..