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Sandbag can drop items
Ultra Instinct has no time limit
Sandbag can drop items
Ultra Instinct has no time limit
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The fact that Sandbag won't trigger the instinctive reactions, because it's not throwing hits. It's basically Goku punches Sandbag, bomb magically appears, Goku blows up.Theglassman12 said:@cal does the sandbag have an answer to instinctive reactions?
you mean the guy that literally tripped a fat guy and dragged him out of the tournament?Yobobojojo said:That's not very in character, especially in UI
Isn't UI goku baseline though?Theglassman12 said:The fact that a bomb appears will make goku get away due to how UI works. Also how is the bomb gonna one shot goku when he's higher than baseline?
Whence was it ever stated UI>IZTheglassman12 said:No he's not. Since he's stronger than IZ, and UI makes him stronger the longer he fights.
The bomb doesn't hurt himThunderbladeX said:Since the bombs take a while to detonate, couldn't Goku simply grab the bomb and throw it at Sandbag?
Someone didn't watch the Kelfla fightThe real cal howard said:Because Goku's in mid-attack when the bomb appears, he'll inadvertently detonate it himself via the followthrough iirc.
If that's the case, Sandbag FRA.Yobobojojo said:The bomb doesn't hurt himThunderbladeX said:Since the bombs take a while to detonate, couldn't Goku simply grab the bomb and throw it at Sandbag?
UI < Jiren though, and sandbag consistently takes higher than baseline attacks with easeTheglassman12 said:@yobo it's been discussed ever sinced UI was introduced. Not to mentio Beerus didn't flinch when IZ showed up, but he was tense around Jiren.
That's a action, not a reaction, something UI Goku doesn't do in characterTheglassman12 said:How is the sandbag hurting goku again when he can just throw him away.
First off: Goku doesn't know the sandbag can drop items upon being hit, which Goku will most likely do.Theglassman12 said:How is the sandbag hurting goku again when he can just throw him away.
That won't do anything because Standard Battle Assumtion means Goku can only win via killing or knocking him out.Theglassman12 said:How is the sandbag hurting goku again when he can just throw him away.
And didn't that weakened him a shit ton? He's not going to do that unless he realises he can't win, by which that point he's been bombed or is tiredTheglassman12 said:@yobo so all the attacks and the charged up kamehameha against kefla isn't an action huh?
ok, and how is that going to help the sandbag when he can dodge it or counter it with a ki blast?The real cal howard said:Only one of them will be point blank.
That doesn't mean much when he can only use it while weakened. Besides, that is literally what happenedTheglassman12 said:@yobo your telling me that someone who's used UI numerous times while worn out from a tournament is going to get worn out from one kamehameha?
I thought he was just shooting one kamehameha?Theglassman12 said:ok, and how is that going to help the sandbag when he can dodge it or counter it with a ki blast?The real cal howard said:Only one of them will be point blank.