Samus Aran vs Jeanne (One More vote needed)

[Schnee_One]

It doesn't activate by evading, that is a gameplay mechanic that's always contradicted by cutscenes

 

[KarmodF]

Activates by evading?

You can't evade the Sonic Boom, its literally Samus cracking space-time

Well by combo I imagine J-Man refered to something like a literal combo (Punches) even with that Witch Time can be activated with mere toughts, she only needs to get CQC to kill Samus.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

No, combo as in two beams combined.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Sonic Boom is omni-directional on a four dimensional scale. While it still only got stellar range on a 3-D scale, but it attacks through time; so it's basically undodgeable.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dark Can it hit if Jeanne travels to Inferno Purgatorio or Paradiso to avoid it?

 

[KarmodF]

Sonic Boom is omni-directional on a four dimensional scale. While it still only got stellar range on a 3-D scale, but it attacks through time; so it's basically undodgeable.

Source?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

If Jean He leaves Samus can prep the battle field for when she returns.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How? Time will be slowed and she can still attack Samus from those realms

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How is Samus going to counter someone invisible and intangible slowing time and attacking her from a parallel realm?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

>Extended melee range to hundreds of meters depending on her weapons. Planetary with Witch Time.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah i need to change that, Witch Time is WAY further than planetary

Umbra Witches can affect the Human World and other realms like Purgatorio simultaneously with Witch Time

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Here, also, SomeBodyData could probably explain it better than I.

@Weekly, not certain about that actually. Samus does travel from Light Aether to Dark Aether on a regular basis throughout Prime 2; which each take place in two separate parallel universes, but I'm unsure if Samus could travel to her realm. I'll wait for SomeBodyData to elaborate.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Well if ya can post a screencap I'll let ya have it.

Unless we count composite dimensional travel to any dimension is a no go.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@J-Man Is that to me or Dark?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Samus can see the invisible and harm intangible beings, so the Invisibility/Intangibility stuff is moot.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

You then him. But honestly, as long as it gets changed soon I'll concede that.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dark Are those inisible/intangible things invisible and intangible because theyre in another realm? If not then its not moot.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Yes actually , chozo ghosts.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Phantoo is said to be "upper-dimensional", probably not the actual best word to describe him, but "In another Realm" actually does seem to accurately describe him.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You then him. But honestly, as long as it gets changed soon I'll concede that.

The entire fight agains Sapienta took place in Purgatorio while Bayo used Witch Time in the Human World to slow down Luka's ascent to a helicopter to the point that by the time he reached the helicopter, Bayo had already defeated Sapienta and was in the helicopter waiting

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

But can Jeanne do that .

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, all Umbra Witches can

 

[KarmodF]

Here, also, SomeBodyData could probably explain it better than I.

@Weekly, not certain about that actually. Samus does travel from Light Aether to Dark Aether on a regular basis throughout Prime 2; which each take place in two separate parallel universes, but I'm unsure if Samus could travel to her realm. I'll wait for SomeBodyData to elaborate.

I really didnt find anything about them being 4-D, the Omni-Directional scale sounds iffy I would apreciate more input.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It's breaking the fabric of time and space; meaning it basically has immeasurable attack speed and the range is across time. Samus literally used the same attack to destroy the entire parallel universe that contained Dark Aether.

Not saying it's the size of a real parallel universe; the planet busting calc is still only Small Star level+, but it's still an undodgeable Space-Time hax.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dark That sounds like something that needs to actually be on her profile because i have a hard time believing that...

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

He linked the metroid prime wiki, did ya not check ?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

We'll need SomeBodyData to elaborate on that, he can explain it much better than I.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No i did, i have a hard time believing its an attack with Immeasurable speed, and why would a parallel universe be smaller than the universe its parallel to?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Even the wiki says it instantly hits the opponent. (But then again it dies say it is merely quick).

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Instantly doesnt automatically mean its Immeasurable though

 

[Kaltias]

Breaking space-time isn't immeasurable speed

 

[Golden_Void]

Did this thread turn into a CRT?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Immeasurable speed, may not have been the best term, but it's impressive Space-Time hax. And Pocket realities not infinite in size is quite common in fiction; take Hyperbolic Time Chamber for example. There's no proof that Dark Aether's realm is infinite in size; otherwise, Light Suit Samus would have already bean Low 2-C. She's obviously not, but that Space-Time hax is true.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah what are the votes again?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dark Is it a pocket reality or a parallel universe? There's a big difference.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Parralel dimension created via dimension flux upon impact of a meteor splitting the world in two , like zelda.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Okay, so its a pocket reality, got it.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The Luminoths describe it as "Parallel dimension", but that's not the definition of dimension. I'd say pocket reality is more accurate for now; given we don't know the size of it, but the quotes do generally imply "Parallel Universe". At least until SomeBodyData comes back, we'll say it's a Pocket Reality. It does still have a separate timeline though.

 

[SomebodyData]

The Sonic Boom isn't immeasurable

Its not a projectile either, its quite literally just Samus cracking Space-Time

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Not quite, stuff in the light world, if moved, would durectly effect dark aether. And the size is the planet.