Sakuya's ability addition

[Andykhang]

In Wild and Horned Hermit chapter 35, Sakuya reveal her time stop as "moving at extremely high speeds, with no mass." Would that count for her to have mass manipulation?

Source: http://imgur.com/a/yMtad

 

[Andykhang]

bump

 

[DontTalk]

The explanation doesn't really make sense, to be honest.

For example, because we have actually have seen her stopping time just for the opponent (The 'Watch "Luna Dial"' spell card or 'Time Sign "Sakuya's Special Stopwatch" ' for example)

So not sure what I should think aboute that explanation.

 

[Andykhang]

Yeah, there's that... either she's lying or her move work on different principle (like just slow their time instead of outright stopping). That isn't really affecting her prior explanation though. Beside, there's ZUN statement that you couldn't slice an object that's frozen in time, and that would work well for that explanation (since she still have to deal with the frozen air, and being massless allow her to slip through all that material)

 

[DontTalk]

Being Massless Ôëá being intangible.

I suppose what ZUN had in mind with that explanation is that timestop is, from the view of the timestopped people, nothing, but extremly fast movement of those who can move in stopped time and the "with no mass" part is to not break relativity (things like time dilatation and some other relativistic effects don't really apply to light, since it doesn't have mass and stuff)

The second statement is non the less directly contradicted through feats.

I guess reducing mass might be fine, even though I am still a bit uncertain about the explanation. If this is just a draft for the translation, maybe we should wait a bit for an "official" release. Just to make sure.

 

[Andykhang]

True, even light bend and collide with object. And yeah, guess I will wait

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Touhou contradicting itself? Oh my that's a surprise.

But yeah agreeing with Donttalk here. If Sakuya had intangibility it would've been more relevant or at least she probably would've said something about it a long time ago. Or Marisa would make note of it in the Grimoire.