Saitama vs Mori Jin (7-19)

[Phoenks]

Ahem. So it's basically Saitama vs a more skilled, less powerful Goku.

Saitama, the Abominable Fist That Turned Against God VS Mori Jin, the God of Highschool

Information:

• Post-Training, Parallel Timeline Saitama.
• The God of Highschool Mori Jin.
• Saitama starts off serious.
• Speed is equalized.
• The battle takes place on Saturn's moon, Titan.

Attack Potency:

• Saitama: 1.1178994e+65 Joules
• Mori Jin: 1.4534006e+64 Joules

The difference in power is about 7.69x in Saitama's favor.

Who Wins? Let's find out.

Saitama: 7
Mori Jin: 19
Inconclusive: 0

 

[azontr]

dude.

 

[azontr]

So what stops Saitama from going "haha funny time travel" and one-tapping Mori before the fight ever started?

 

[sanicspood]

So what stops Saitama from going "haha funny time travel" and one-tapping Mori before the fight ever started?

out of character

 

[azontr]

out of character

How out of character? Cause Saitama already has a one-shot worthy AP advantage here.

 

[Phoenks]

So what stops Saitama from going "haha funny time travel" and one-tapping Mori before the fight ever started?

Doesn't this Mori have plenty of options? Clones? Time Stop? SKILL? Etc?

Also that isn't exactly in-character. Saitama is serious here, but not bloodlusted.

 

[sanicspood]

How out of character? Cause Saitama already has a one-shot worthy AP advantage here.

uhh maybe because he wants a good fight and doesnt like fancy tricks?

it being one shot worthy literally does not matter

 

[azontr]

Doesn't this Mori have plenty of options? Clones? Time Stop? SKILL? Etc?

Also that isn't exactly in-character. Saitama is serious here, but not bloodlusted.

He does have all of these things. I just need to know if Saitama will use his most hax ability, because Mori doesn't have any form of Acausality to counter it.

If he doesn't use it even when serious then I can very well argue in Mori's favor, as the skill advantage here is rather nasty.

 

[Phoenks]

He does have all of these things. I just need to know if Saitama will use his most hax ability, because Mori doesn't have any form of Acausality to counter it.

If he doesn't use it even when serious then I can very well argue in Mori's favor, as the skill advantage here is rather nasty.

He's serious, so he's not going to start off with it, but it's always a possibility, is what I think.

He'll basically be fighting him like how he was fighting Garou at the beginning of Chapter 168.

 

[Kachon123]

Saitama one shots with his intergalactic shockwave range

 

[azontr]

He's serious, so he's not going to start off with it, but it's always a possibility, is what I think.

Alright.

What's Saitama's response to dura neg acupuncture that paralyzes every nerve in his body instantly?

 

[azontr]

Saitama one shots with his intergalactic shockwave range

Mori dodges with funny cloud lol.

 

[Phoenks]

Alright.

What's Saitama's response to dura neg acupuncture that paralyzes every nerve in his body instantly?

Can you first tell how it dura negates?

 

[azontr]

Can you first tell how it dura negates?

I'm pretty sure acupuncture is durability negation. Like, pressure points and shit in general.

 

[azontr]

If that's not the case then it negates durability by directly targeting blood vessels, nerves, cells, etc.

 

[Phoenks]

I'm pretty sure acupuncture is durability negation. Like, pressure points and shit in general.

Saitama should be pretty resistant to that given he's fought Garou who deliberately targets pressure points and targeted his organs/internals and whatnot via durability negation.

He resisted it btw.

 

[azontr]

Saitama should be pretty resistant to that given he's fought Garou who deliberately targets pressure points and also attempted to target his organs/internals and whatnot via durability negation.

He resisted it btw.

Does Garou's acupuncture target nerves and cells? Like directly.

 

[Phoenks]

Does Garou's acupuncture target nerves and cells? Like directly.

It directly targets internal organs and shreds them apart. He was completely unaffected.

Is that enough?

Garou can also "incapacitate physical functions" with pressure points, yet this presumably has no effect on Saitama.

 

[azontr]

It directly targets internal organs and shreds them apart. He was completely unaffected.

Is that enough?

Uh idk.

Garou's durability negation is through shockwaves/isn't stated shown to directly effect individual cells(Bongchim Nah Needle Ryu stops cellular activity/recuperation through nanotechnology) so it probably isn't comparable.

 

[Kachon123]

Saitams is immune to PP as Phoenks has said.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Compare Garou's pressure points to Mori's is equal to compare the strength of a ant to a human

 

[azontr]

Saitams is immune to PP as Phoenks has said.

Garou's pressure points are worse than Mori's, though.

 

[LordGinSama]

That would depend on what PP does in comparison to Mori's. Garou's Pressure Points just allow him to target vitals and such, it's not Kenshiro's for instance which can make you blow up.


Saitama isn't immune either, Immunity would be not having pressure points to effect to begin with. He's resistant, not immune.

 

[Kachon123]

It can't even effect him. The Dura to AP gap is far too large.

 

[azontr]

It can't even effect him. The Dura to AP gap is far too large.

It isn't limited durability negation so durability doesn't matter, it is actual full-on durability negation lol.

 

[LordGinSama]

It isn't limited durability negation so durability doesn't matter, it is actual full-on durability negation lol.

It would also depend on what Mori has affected with his pressure points and I'm pretty sure Mori's pressure points have worked on opponents over 7x stronger than himself.

 

[Kachon123]

Garou's Pressure Points just allow him to target vitals and such

Shuts down ability to move and fight back.

 

[azontr]

Shuts down ability to move and fight back.

Mori's pressure points do that as well but instead of targeting joints they target one's cells and nerves directly.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Shuts down ability to move and fight back.

Basic pressure points

 

[Phoenks]

Mori's pressure points do that as well but instead of targeting joints they target one's cells and nerves directly.

Could you explain how targeting cells directly matters? Also, pretty sure most pressure points target nerves in some way.

 

[Kachon123]

Mori's pressure points do that as well but instead of targeting joints they target one's cells and nerves directly.

Is there any proof that will work against someone who has over a 7.5x durability gap.

 

[LordGinSama]

Shuts down ability to move and fight back.

Which is a standard of pressure points. Those are meant to incapacitate the opponent via pain Manipulation by applying pressure to nerves or Paralysis via the same method.


That's a tad bit different than Mori's form of Pressure points.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Would Mori really outskill Saitama? I am not sure of how skilled Mori is, but Saitama is more skilled than Garou

 

[azontr]

Could you explain how targeting cells directly matters? Also, pretty sure most pressure points target nerves in some way.

Directly targeting cells is durability negation, and no, not at all forms of pressure points strike nerves.

Not like that's Mori's only way of negating durability, as he can just cause a bunch of blood clots to form in Saitama and make him rapidly explode if he feels like it.

 

[LordGinSama]

Saitama can pull Mori's hair, Mori can't do the same ergo Saitama wins.

 

[azontr]

Would Mori really outskill Saitama? I am not sure of how skilled Mori is, but Saitama is more skilled than Garou

And Mori is more skilled than Garou.

 

[Phoenks]

Directly targeting cells is durability negation, and no, not at all forms of pressure points strike nerves.

Not like that's Mori's only way of negating durability, as he can just cause a bunch of blood clots to form in Saitama and make him rapidly explode if he feels like it.

I mean, Saitama survives having his internal organs targeted directly. And this is different from the shockwaves.

I just fail to see how targeting cells is so far superior to targeting an internal organ. Organs are made of cells, and the cells are being damaged regardless.

Pretty sure Garou strikes nerves to disable movement.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

And mash outskill both

 

[Phoenks]

Would Mori really outskill Saitama? I am not sure of how skilled Mori is, but Saitama is more skilled than Garou

Mori definitely has more skill overall, but I think Saitama has better copying/mimicry.

 

[azontr]

Mori definitely has more skill overall, but I think Saitama has better copying/mimicry.

Mori resists Power Mimicry.