Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
This is only the second most confusing thing I’ve ever read
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
- Thread starter TheUnshakableOne
- Start date
-
- Tags
- saint seiya
- 12,816
- 2,598
What's the first?
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
just about everything Luffy says
- 6,451
- 1,666
- Thread starter
- #5,084
Unconnected universes has no affect what is and isn't canon.
You can have 2 completely separated storyline in their own universe and have their own multiverse and be separated cosmologies, but both can still be canon. A common theme mostly in western comics. However dome western book series do this too. Le Modessit JR is infamous for doing this.
Every book series he writes is it's own storyline, canon, and even its own separate cosmology. But they are all still canon, and do take some liberties from each other in similarity of abilities.
The confusion comes from the difference of a connected universe vs a disconnected universe for the current saint seiya issue though. Not what is canon and what is non canon. People are confusing a disconnected universe with non canoncity when they aren't the same.
Edit: people are conflating disconnected/connected universes with canon/noncanon. Saying that if it's disconnected it must be non canon. Which isn't always the case.
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
What is the point of having verses coexist in the same greater setting if their cosmologies are different?
The semantics of canonicity at that point are irrelevant.
The semantics of canonicity at that point are irrelevant.
- 6,451
- 1,666
- Thread starter
- #5,086
It's just an example albeit an extreme case but easier to use as an easy example.
Le Modessit Jr's series. He writes them all himself. Every book series is canon, but they don't share the same greater cosmology. He does this on purpose, but he also admits he does use certain elements from other series that he has written and adds them into the storyline.
Thus they are all still canon, but separate cosmologies. Also not connected to each other.
I'm not using Saint seiya as an example here. Because all the Mangas are canon and exist in the same multiverse. The contention was the GR/ND issues. People arguing that it makes one non canon and the other canon.
I'm saying that staff elaborated more, and im paraphrasing what they said
Their no longer a connected universe, exist in the same multiverse, and they are still canon
Edit: staff also admitted tge wiki has an issue with people conflating disconnected and connected universes with what is and is not canon in non multiversal settings.
- 12,816
- 2,598
Any examples of verses that have this logic in the wiki? (I'm not familiar with Le Modessit Jr's series)
- 12,191
- 6,129
Very funny
- 12,816
- 2,598
Maybe Hasty needs some more education to understand you Luffy
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
Don’t take it too seriously, google translate often misrepresents what you say
- 12,191
- 6,129
Then don't come and apologize after ¯\(ツ)/¯
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
I’m not apologising for attacking google translate
- 12,191
- 6,129
Before you came to apologize in public for insulting me and you are continuing to make jokes to make me angry, this will not work.I’m not apologising for attacking google translate
- 12,816
- 2,598
Hasty doesn't want to repeat that time he offended you by joking around about you and Australians
- 12,191
- 6,129
Did he make a joke about Australia?
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
Heaven saga might have been confirmed
- 12,816
- 2,598
Great, will Kuru deliver and cook something better than next dimension?
- 12,191
- 6,129
I hope he leaves this to someone else, it took him years to finish a single saga and it ended very boring
- 12,816
- 2,598
Are you feeling hyped Hasty?
- 32,359
- 20,298
I did a breakdown of everything Kurumada drew over the past 18 years and found that if he was exclusively doing Saint Seiya, Next Dimension would have only taken 10 years to do. He isn't doing multiple manga simultaneously currently, and has become more willing to let assistants do the work (He didn't drew a single page for Next Dimension's last 16 chapters).
So maybe this will be faster.
- 6,451
- 1,666
- Thread starter
- #5,102
he had help drawing toward the end if ND. Izo Okada and another person came out and said that.
So I imagine he will here too
Question for you Matt. Where did you rank Agyo and unagyo
- 12,816
- 2,598
What are your thoughts on Next Dimension overall Matt, did you think Kuru cooked?
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
- 12,816
- 2,598
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
Need a calc to support those ratings. Good luck having one evaluated and accepted this century.
Abu2411
He/Him- 1,387
- 641
I mean most of the galaxy is stars and planets, you'd be leaving behind black holes.
Iirc, if you destroy >50% of the galaxy that's enough for a + modifier.
- 6,451
- 1,666
- Thread starter
- #5,109
Iirc destroying a neutron star at the edge of the galaxy is baseline 3-C
- 12,816
- 2,598
I don't believe we include Black Holes when talking about destroying a galaxy, for how we even got the standard baseline of galaxy AP Values
- 12,816
- 2,598
Found the GBE of a "Typical Galaxy." Is it helpful for calc'ing feats?
I found these links that say that the "Typical gravitational binding energy of a galaxy" is 2 x 10^53 It also has on there the Typical gravitational binding energy of a cluster of galaxies at 5 x 10^{57} This one is probably easier to find than the other two above, but it also has the GBE of...
"3-C: Energy equal to or above what is needed to overcome the GBE of the Sun with an omnidirectional blast with the point of origin of the blast beginning at the core of the Milky Way Galaxy and the Sun being located at the edge of the Galaxy."
- 6,451
- 1,666
- Thread starter
- #5,112
Not accepted. Changing aby of those statistics formaling is impossible without a ridiculous amount of scientific lawFound the GBE of a "Typical Galaxy." Is it helpful for calc'ing feats?
I found these links that say that the "Typical gravitational binding energy of a galaxy" is 2 x 10^53 It also has on there the Typical gravitational binding energy of a cluster of galaxies at 5 x 10^{57} This one is probably easier to find than the other two above, but it also has the GBE of...vsbattles.com
- 1,967
- 1,664
nah, it takes 4-B AP in most cases. it also depends on how fast the neutron star is spinning
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
I think they're assuming it's done by an omnidirectional attack from Earth but more interestingly, the energy needed to destroy a star is dependent on how fast it's spinning?
- 1,967
- 1,664
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
- 1,967
- 1,664
i mean, that is Hades's sword so....
- 12,191
- 6,129
What happened there?
By the way, please don't involve me in your problems with other people.
- 1,967
- 1,664
Hasty sure talks a lot for someone in the range of a diamondo dusto
Hasty12345
Username Only- 5,238
- 4,061
I don't have a problem with anyone and you involved an entire server with your problems when it was convenient for you
