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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
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Taizen?
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No it's actually some anime thing
That anime mftl Camus scaling actually real lmfao
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I was gonna point out the MFTL feat from Camus when he reflected an attack off of Aquarius constellation as a counterpoint to SoL Saints but then I realized we don't use anime feats apparently
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The canons have been split as of Unshakable's recent CRT. Toei StS is going to be wholly seperate from any manga content.
FTL (and Low 2-C) Golds are much more easily argued in Toei than in manga
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So basically like DBZ? Neat. Also when you say Toei anime, you mean Classic + Omega right?
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Classic + SoG + Omega + Overture
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What about the OVAs?
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No because you could still cross scale cosmologies and it's currently accepted that DBZ Toei it's, it's own alternative timeline within the greater multiverse. With the Toei Ss/Omega stuff it's, it's own separate thing, except the Buddhist 8th sense stuff (for reasons explained in the blog)
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The movies? Like the Eris one? That I'm not sure yet
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Today I saw that Saint Seiya got a new manga, have you read it yet?
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No I mean in terms of feats. Since a feat in DBZ Toei (like the 4-A Namek busting) can't be used for manga. Likewise Camus's MFTL feat in the Toei anime can't be used for the manga either
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Yeah he says they are lightspeed, and then also happens to be stronger and faster then other lightspeed goldsaints.
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If you mean the hades ova, they should be canon to Toei, as poorly drawn flashbacks in omega show it
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This happens many times in the series. You get a Light Speed statement, then characters clearly surpass it and move on, then later on you get another Light Speed statement and the cycle just continues. I honestly haven't a clue about what to do here. Should we ignore most of this and just do our scaling? Should we take the manga's word?
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LS is just the baseline for Gold Saints
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If it's that contradictory then you'll just have to go the route that comics go in here.
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I always treat it the same way I treat Bronze Saints. Mach speed is supposed to be the limit for them, but Seiya in the first chapter exceeds Mach speed, and several others do so as well.
I just assume Mach/Light Speed is just their default "Not trying" state.
I just assume Mach/Light Speed is just their default "Not trying" state.
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It's more the statements for me, for some reason Kuru just keeps resetting their speed to SoL/FTL every two seconds. I am mostly fine with being unable to react to FTL stuff at times, those can be outliers but the statements is what really make it difficult
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We don't treat comic scaling in a monolithic way, you're gonna need to be more specific.
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could you explain why?
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That can easily just be a case of it just being more ftl then saga is.
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The ”speed” of the expansion can’t actually be quantified in the way that calc tried to capture it
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Sounds like immeasurable speed then
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If gold saints are immeasurable then Krillin is 2-C….waitSounds like immeasurable speed then
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It’s a miracle, it doesn’t scale to any base gold Saint anyway
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Well outspeeding the Big Bang doesn’t usually grant immeasurable according to our current standards.
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any other examples of that happening?
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Hasty12345
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when did Goku out speed the big bang?
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The Big Bang doesn’t have “speed”, that’s literally part of the problem with the calc. Even if you, for some reason, accept that calc, it is 15 Septillion C. Goku MUI is currently 150 Nonillion C. To say that he blitzes is an understatement
Though that wasn’t the point of me posting that image.
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Hasty12345
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sounds like immeasurable
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Are all Miracles created equal? Because if not, then other Gold Saints pretty much cannot scale to Shura's feat period no matter how fast or slow it is.
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That's never gonna get accepted.
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That actually doesn't matter G wise because miracles are derived from humanity's infinite potential which essentially means it kinda does scale to everyone
