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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

if Uranus is 2-A then at the very least Cronus and Zeus are 2-A
maybe Amaterasu as well, but she'll likely never have a profile
 
I really disagree with that, they are too different and different works
You can make a CRT about it. You should likely wait for the canon CRT though because it might change stuff to where you need to do another CRT about the topic.
In any case, I don't really see any contradiction, G gods have ethereal forms so Chronos being formless isn't a contradiction imo
 
You can make a CRT about it. You should likely wait for the canon CRT though because it might change stuff to where you need to do another CRT about the topic.
In any case, I don't really see any contradiction, G gods have ethereal forms so Chronos being formless isn't a contradiction imo
Too tired to do a simple thing, but my little sister said she was going to separate canon derivatives, like DBGT, DBH, and DBX
 
If this were accepted, several Multiverses would be low 1-C here on the wiki, as is the case with DBH, among others, I don't think it works like that, so far I'm trying to understand how Ben 10 also got low 1-C
actually its a real thing. Infinite number of multiverses would mean there is an uncountably infinite number of universes which equates to an unctounably infinity thus 5D Cosmology.

The only problem that im aware of is that you need to prove that the multiverses are separated.

I can't speak for DBH or Ben 10 though. idk them that well.
 
actually its a real thing. Infinite number of multiverses would mean there is an uncountably infinite number of universes which equates to an unctounably infinity thus 5D Cosmology.

The only problem that im aware of is that you need to prove that the multiverses are separated.

I can't speak for DBH or Ben 10 though. idk them that well.
But do you have proof that the Universes of Saint Seiya exist infinitely?
 
Well the cosmology for G is 2-A at the very least, and scaling from Uranus would put Cronos at 2-A. We're checking the raws to make sure it fits
Nothing in this franchise is 2-A, because no one is affecting the multiverse, they only affect one universe (the universe where their story takes place).
Yeah we do for G at least.
Lost Canvas too, maybe Sho. We need to examine the raws for the conversation between Shaka and Dysnomia.
That's right, Episode.G mentions the multiverse, with this story being the main story that mentions the existence of an infinite multiverse.

TLC does not, it only has a vague allusion to the multiverse, with only one character mentioning the existence of parallel worlds, and Saintia Sho has a clear mention of other universes and the multiverse, but no mention of infinity. The other series that clearly mentions the multiverse is Dark Wing and has a mention of the existence of infinite universes/worlds.
 
Nothing in this franchise is 2-A, because no one is affecting the multiverse, they only affect one universe (the universe where their story takes place).
It seems to make sense, about Chronos scaling from ND and other characters I noticed that they are using multipliers to level up characters and that is not accepted here.
 
Yeah we do for G at least.
Lost Canvas too, maybe Sho. We need to examine the raws for the conversation between Shaka and Dysnomia.
That's why we have to review the whole scale of the franchise, because ND's Chronos is not at that level by any means. As I said, no character in this franchise is on that level, because they all only affect the world where the story takes place.
 
Well I believe they have been accepted as the same in one of the latest CRTs, it's just not been implemented yet.
I don't think that's possible since per Assassin where Okada adapted a lot of Next Dimension elements, Hourglass portal Chronos seems to be one of them (Shura mentions using him to get to the future). Hourglass Chronos is a much different character from Titan Kronos who's stuck in Tartaro
 
That's why we have to review the whole scale of the franchise, because ND's Chronos is not at that level by any means. As I said, no character in this franchise is on that level, because they all only affect the world where the story takes place.
In theory, if a character could be argued to embody the multiverse, they would be at that level right?
 
Nothing in this franchise is 2-A, because no one is affecting the multiverse, they only affect one universe (the universe where their story takes place).

That's right, Episode.G mentions the multiverse, with this story being the main story that mentions the existence of an infinite multiverse.

TLC does not, it only has a vague allusion to the multiverse, with only one character mentioning the existence of parallel worlds, and Saintia Sho has a clear mention of other universes and the multiverse, but no mention of infinity. The other series that clearly mentions the multiverse is Dark Wing and has a mention of the existence of infinite universes/worlds.
If the cosmology is 2-A, then Uranus, and by the extension the Primordials would scale, considering they are stated to be the root of all existence and the gods of creation who were said to have made everything.
 
I don't think that's possible since per Assassin where Okada adapted a lot of Next Dimension elements, Hourglass portal Chronos seems to be one of them (Shura mentions using him to get to the future). Hourglass Chronos is a much different character from Titan Kronos who's stuck in Tartaro
Cronus being stuck in Tartarus doesn't seem to hinder the usage of his power or even authority, considering, like you said, they stated they used his power to travel in time. Afaik, the Kanji for the name is the same.
 
If the cosmology is 2-A, then Uranus, and by the extension the Primordials would scale, considering they are stated to be the root of all existence and the gods of creation who were said to have made everything.
Strangely enough, abzu is also a primordial who is said to be the root of everything
 
If the cosmology is 2-A, then Uranus, and by the extension the Primordials would scale, considering they are stated to be the root of all existence and the gods of creation who were said to have made everything.
No, it is only part of their universe, no one scales to the multiverse, because no one affects this, even the primordials only interact with the multiverse with a bfr to send the Saints to other worlds and this is basically it, just travel to other dimensions.
 
No, it is only part of their universe, no one scales to the multiverse, because no one affects this, even the primordials only interact with the multiverse with a bfr to send the Saints to other worlds and this is basically it, just travel to other dimensions.
All I see here is cope. We have a very blatant statement that says the Primordials made all of existence.
 
All I see here is cope. We have a very blatant statement that says the Primordials made all of existence.
Only the universe, that's why it is mentioned that the whole universe belongs to them, they never mention more than that. And as I already explained their only interaction with the multiverse is when Uranus sent the Saints to other worlds.
Fair enough, I think the fact the UW has souls from other worlds might be worth looking into for the Toei stuff tho.
This was only due to the distortion in space and time created by Aiolios, which he uses to travel and bring souls from other places, we can even see how one of these portals was in the Underworld.
 
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