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Little sister, do you have proof that there are infinite universes in Saint Seiya or infinite timelines?Rephrase that please?
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Little sister, do you have proof that there are infinite universes in Saint Seiya or infinite timelines?Rephrase that please?
Yeah we do for G at least.But do you have proof that the Universes of Saint Seiya exist infinitely?
LC, G, DW, and ShoLittle sister, do you have proof that there are infinite universes in Saint Seiya or infinite timelines?
Dark wings has that, and I’m pretty sure it’s in the same multiverse as the classic, and G also has thatLittle sister, do you have proof that there are infinite universes in Saint Seiya or infinite timelines?
Nothing in this franchise is 2-A, because no one is affecting the multiverse, they only affect one universe (the universe where their story takes place).Well the cosmology for G is 2-A at the very least, and scaling from Uranus would put Cronos at 2-A. We're checking the raws to make sure it fits
That's right, Episode.G mentions the multiverse, with this story being the main story that mentions the existence of an infinite multiverse.Yeah we do for G at least.
Lost Canvas too, maybe Sho. We need to examine the raws for the conversation between Shaka and Dysnomia.
It seems to make sense, about Chronos scaling from ND and other characters I noticed that they are using multipliers to level up characters and that is not accepted here.Nothing in this franchise is 2-A, because no one is affecting the multiverse, they only affect one universe (the universe where their story takes place).
That's why we have to review the whole scale of the franchise, because ND's Chronos is not at that level by any means. As I said, no character in this franchise is on that level, because they all only affect the world where the story takes place.Yeah we do for G at least.
Lost Canvas too, maybe Sho. We need to examine the raws for the conversation between Shaka and Dysnomia.
I don't think that's possible since per Assassin where Okada adapted a lot of Next Dimension elements, Hourglass portal Chronos seems to be one of them (Shura mentions using him to get to the future). Hourglass Chronos is a much different character from Titan Kronos who's stuck in TartaroWell I believe they have been accepted as the same in one of the latest CRTs, it's just not been implemented yet.
In theory, if a character could be argued to embody the multiverse, they would be at that level right?That's why we have to review the whole scale of the franchise, because ND's Chronos is not at that level by any means. As I said, no character in this franchise is on that level, because they all only affect the world where the story takes place.
If the cosmology is 2-A, then Uranus, and by the extension the Primordials would scale, considering they are stated to be the root of all existence and the gods of creation who were said to have made everything.Nothing in this franchise is 2-A, because no one is affecting the multiverse, they only affect one universe (the universe where their story takes place).
That's right, Episode.G mentions the multiverse, with this story being the main story that mentions the existence of an infinite multiverse.
TLC does not, it only has a vague allusion to the multiverse, with only one character mentioning the existence of parallel worlds, and Saintia Sho has a clear mention of other universes and the multiverse, but no mention of infinity. The other series that clearly mentions the multiverse is Dark Wing and has a mention of the existence of infinite universes/worlds.
Cronus being stuck in Tartarus doesn't seem to hinder the usage of his power or even authority, considering, like you said, they stated they used his power to travel in time. Afaik, the Kanji for the name is the same.I don't think that's possible since per Assassin where Okada adapted a lot of Next Dimension elements, Hourglass portal Chronos seems to be one of them (Shura mentions using him to get to the future). Hourglass Chronos is a much different character from Titan Kronos who's stuck in Tartaro
Strangely enough, abzu is also a primordial who is said to be the root of everythingIf the cosmology is 2-A, then Uranus, and by the extension the Primordials would scale, considering they are stated to be the root of all existence and the gods of creation who were said to have made everything.
were not using multipliers...It seems to make sense, about Chronos scaling from ND and other characters I noticed that they are using multipliers to level up characters and that is not accepted here.
I think the 2-A Abzu was upgrade was rejected last time because Omega works off MWI. Which is an issue G doesn't really have.Strangely enough, abzu is also a primordial who is said to be the root of everything
No, it is only part of their universe, no one scales to the multiverse, because no one affects this, even the primordials only interact with the multiverse with a bfr to send the Saints to other worlds and this is basically it, just travel to other dimensions.If the cosmology is 2-A, then Uranus, and by the extension the Primordials would scale, considering they are stated to be the root of all existence and the gods of creation who were said to have made everything.
Fair enough, I think the fact the UW has souls from other worlds might be worth looking into for the Toei stuff tho.I think the 2-A Abzu was upgrade was rejected last time because Omega works off MWI. Which is an issue G doesn't really have.
All I see here is cope. We have a very blatant statement that says the Primordials made all of existence.No, it is only part of their universe, no one scales to the multiverse, because no one affects this, even the primordials only interact with the multiverse with a bfr to send the Saints to other worlds and this is basically it, just travel to other dimensions.
Only the universe, that's why it is mentioned that the whole universe belongs to them, they never mention more than that. And as I already explained their only interaction with the multiverse is when Uranus sent the Saints to other worlds.All I see here is cope. We have a very blatant statement that says the Primordials made all of existence.
This was only due to the distortion in space and time created by Aiolios, which he uses to travel and bring souls from other places, we can even see how one of these portals was in the Underworld.Fair enough, I think the fact the UW has souls from other worlds might be worth looking into for the Toei stuff tho.
"All of existence" sounds like way more than a single universe chief.Only the universe, that's why it is mentioned that the whole universe belongs to them, they never mention more than that.
oh I was talking about omegaOnly the universe, that's why it is mentioned that the whole universe belongs to them, they never mention more than that.
This was only due to the distortion in space and time created by Aiolios, which he uses to travel and bring souls from other places, we can even see how one of these portals was in the Underworld.
The mention of Omega is just a reference to the world of the dead being another dimension and they are not really talking about the Underworld, but the Yomotsu Hirakasa, the place where the Cancer Saint sent Yuna and Koga with his technique.oh I was talking about omega
It is only a reference to the universe, to the existence that surrounds them, not to other worlds, if it were the multiverse, Okada would have simply mentioned all the universes or the multiverse, being one of the few authors that actually uses this word, but he never mentions that in that scene. You can even see how everything that happened in that world does not interfere with other worlds and only affects this one exclusively. The only mention of these gods interfering with other worlds is the fact that they sent Ikki, Shiryu and the other Saints to other worlds to eliminate them from this world and invade it without their intervention."All of existence" sounds like way more than a single universe chief.
You're literally arguing with the manga at this point. Uranus stating the universe belongs to them doesn't change the statement that they created all of existence. This was stated by Steropes, a god who was in touch with Pontos who has traveled the multiverse. If it was a single universe why would he say all of existence?It is only a reference to the universe, to the existence that surrounds them, not to other worlds, if it were the multiverse, Okada would have simply mentioned all the universes or the multiverse, being one of the few authors that actually uses this word, but he never mentions that in that scene. You can even see how everything that happened in that world does not interfere with other worlds and only affects this one exclusively. The only mention of these gods interfering with other worlds is the fact that they sent Ikki, Shiryu and the other Saints to other worlds to eliminate them from this world and invade it without their intervention.
No, they are not traveling the multiverse, it only mentions Uranus making this and literally everything these gods do only affects the world where the story takes place and no other world. Even Pontos only mentions how the universe belongs to these gods, it never mentions other universes in that scene.You're literally arguing with the manga at this point. Uranus stating the universe belongs to them doesn't change the statement that they created all of existence. This was stated by Steropes, a god who was in touch with Pontos who has traveled the multiverse. If it was a single universe why would he say all of existence?
Pontos traveled to and from Lost World, in case you forgot.No, they are not traveling through the multiverse, only Uranus is mentioned doing this and they are literally not affecting any other world besides the world where the story takes place. Even Pontos only mentions how the universe belongs to these gods, it never mentions other universes in that scene.
He never traveled to another world, the only one who traveled was Aiolos, who was absorbed by the portal in space and time that he created and this sent him to another world, where he arrived in the black sea.Pontos traveled to and from Lost World, in case you forgot.
... What? The Black Sea filled him.He never traveled to another world, the only one who traveled was Aiolos, who was absorbed by the portal in space and time that he created and this sent him to another world, where he arrived in the black sea.
the black sea bursted out from a portal that looks similar to the portal that Aiolios is shown using much later*... What? The Black Sea filled him.
Like what?
Right Pontos came to him, that's the idea I got from the scenethe black sea bursted out from a portal that looks similar to the portal that Aiolios is shown using much later*
No, Aiolos created the portal by sacrificing Athena and then we see how he travels to another world through this portal, where he appeared in the Aegean Sea (Black Sea). Even the portal is created from the dark wings that appeared behind Aiolos after killing Athena.Right Pontos came to him, that's the idea I got from the scene
Kurumada be original and stop nostalgia baiting challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)Hearing Odysseus' warning, Tenma heads to Sasha's side.
At that moment, Odysseus is replaced by Asclepius, who sends Tenma flying
In the commentary of the last volume of Next Dimension, he commented that he still feels as young as in his best days.In all seriousness i think Kurumada should stop at this point.. He has injured hands, hes getting old (he should be focused on his health and living the best life imo), he has redundantly stated he has issues with burnout with the series, and the long gaps between volumes.
i have doubts on that but perhaps its not as serious as he made it out due to advances in modern medicine. Then again could be hes forced to say it due to contractoral issues or perhaps he is using a type of ghost/shadow writingIn the commentary of the latest volume of Next Dimension, he commented that he is still as young as in his best days.
Talking about the health of the mangakas of this franchise, Kuori commented in her blog that she has not published new chapters of Saintia Sho, since she had covid and this caused an old persistent health problem to become complicated, so she had to undergo surgery, although she is already well and even shared a photo of the flowers that Kurumada sent her, so she hopes to return to publish new chapters this year.i have doubts on that but perhaps its not as serious as he made it out due to advances in modern medicine. Then again could be hes forced to say it due to contractoral issues or perhaps he is using a type of ghost/shadow writing
What multipliers?It seems to make sense, about Chronos scaling from ND and other characters I noticed that they are using multipliers to level up characters and that is not accepted here.