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But I still ask, because these characters have infinite speed, what is the feat of that speed.
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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
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Sigurds and his sword have statements of Inf projectiles and Countless projectiles.
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Alr. K think I’ll hash out the details in the crt.
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Countless or Infinite is not something that can be used to describe infinite speed, especially if there is no feat to back this up, as this is usually used as a vague description or hyperbole in a scene, and many times this just means a large amount but nothing specific, even various mangas and animes mention countless hits in some descriptions, but this doesn't mean that character gets infinite speed. For example even the description of Aiolia's Lightning Plasma on the official site says that this attack has countless hits.
Although TheUnshakableOne has some feats or descriptions that could grant infinite speed to these characters, such as the fact that they are crossing a universe and this could grant that speed, but a CRT is still needed to see if this is approved.
Is this the case or will we have to wait for the manga of Dark Wing to advance its story and give a better explanation of Suzuri's ability to cut through causality (cause and effect) to perform an instantaneous cut, and see Shoichiro or Sojiro dodging or parrying this attack.
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NEP abilitiy has been changed, we need to proof it lack an aspect to get NEP
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Well, it would be pretty ez to claim his armor lacks material substance for type 1, as its verbatim stated, and Shura cant do anything to it. I was thinking Nep 1 would work, maybe 3 since it does “exist” in the context of defending Chaka. The armor is called “astral” “Non existent” multiple times as well.
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It is described as an immaterial armor, so it is a spiritual armor or with spiritual properties, a feature that makes it difficult to destroy with physical attacks, that is why Shura needed the Eclipse Excalibur, a sword with the power of the Underworld that can damage spirits to destroy this armor.
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Not so sure about that. The armor, AFAIK is only called Astral armor and Non existent. Further descriptions are that it’s created by will. And as Gold Saints have NPI alr, with Shura not being able to hurt the armor, it would make sense for the armor to be at least enhanced NPI, and NEP at best. It being astral means it doesn’t exist on a physical plane, so it would be like a spirit construct. However, the further statements of being non existent mean that it literally doesn’t exist.
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Not only lack physical, you have to lack some aspect like soul/mind/concept, etc. Like these profiles
Each character with the ability should be sorted into at least one 'Nature of Nothingness'-Type (Nature Type for short) and at least one 'Aspect of Nonexistence'Type (Aspect Type for short). On the profiles these types are listed separately in the following format: "Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type [List of Nature Types the user applies for], Aspect Type [List of Aspect Types the user applies for], [Any further explanations])".
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It is only described as an astral or immaterial armor, so it is not a physical armor in a conventional term, that is why it could not be damaged by attacks like Excalibur that are physical and do not have the power to damage spirits or immaterial bodies in Assassin, that is why Shura needed the Eclipse Calibur an attack with the power of the Underworld that can damage spirits. A spiritual body is not something that belongs to a physical plane and an astral body is only a description that can sometimes be used for the soul or spirit.
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In this scan, near his Eye, Chaka talks about his armor and its Non-Existence. Here. 存在しない-Non Existence.
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This only indicates that it is an immaterial armor, the spirits or souls do not have a physical body, they belong to a different plane, they do not have matter and are not part of this plane. That is why he needed a sword with the power to damage immaterial bodies or spirits to damage that armor.
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I never thought I'd get to this point, but certain constant BS has made me not want to partake in scaling SS on this site anymore.
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You do realize every ss char here has Soul manip right?
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Im sorry to hear that
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Thank you, but you haven't contributed to my experience in any way. So you have nothing to be sorry for.
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Not all, that's why this ability does not exist in TLC, where only a few could affect souls, that's why they used the rosary to seal the Specters, instead of simply destroying them and erasing their souls from this world.
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Regulus can return as a spirit after death for a few seconds and can use all the techniques of the Saints, this includes the Seki Shiki and he can also harm spirits with a magical ability he learned on his trip to Ireland, where he learned to see the points that connect spirits.
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The justification is the exact same as the classic saints tho
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Your forgetting he doesn't believe in the idea kf cross scaling. He believes there is nonexistent inconsistentencies between the core concepts and each series. Inconsistentencies that dint exist.
It's the very definition of delusional. Despite how much evidence goes against him. He will continue to believe his false narrative
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Because some of these abilities are just a copy paste, because the person who added the link to that justification probably didn't even know why Regulus had those abilities on his page and it was easier to just copy and paste. Regulus has that ability because of what was described before. In the TLC story they don't have that power (only a few that are even described in the story), that's why they needed the rosary to seal the souls of the Specters.
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Does anyone know where to get the 聖闘士星矢 GIGANTOMACHIA raws at? need them from online. Would rather not have to wait 1 month to receive it.
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Dark Wing - Chapter 12 (Chinese translation by 4chan).
- The most interesting thing about this chapter is that the Elysion seems to have a day and night cycle, and you can see what seems to be stars in the night sky.
- In the Spanish translation, Yoruhime (Pandora) explains that Hades began to rebuild the Underworld, but at this moment the god is weakened because he has not fully awakened and therefore cannot rebuild it immediately.
- Yoruhime mentions that she still hasn't awakened her cosmos (something that was explained in chapter 11 where Hypnos could awaken her memories, but something strange happens and they can't fully awaken, for example Yoruhime indicates that she couldn't use her cosmos, even though she has the knowledge of Pandora), this explains why she needed Shoichiro to use the arrow against Athena in chapter 2, when Pandora's cosmos is at least as powerful as the cosmos of one of the three leaders of the Underworld.
- Yoruhime indicates that there are only 17 Specters at this time, although she does not know that Garuda has already appeared and is working with Julius. She can see which stars are awake, but she cannot see that Garuda has already appeared, this indicates that the enemy can control the evil stars and the armors of the warriors of Hades and Athena.
I was never able to get the raw of that novel and I don't think there is no raw of that novel online.
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Dark Wing - Chapter 12 (RAW)
I will read the chapter later to see if there is another interesting fact, at the moment the most interesting thing is that the Elysion has a day and night cycle, and we can see stars in the night sky, something that could confirm that Elysion is a universe or at least it is large enough to have stars in Dark Wing.
The Lost Canvas - Deuteros Special 02 (RAW)
Nothing interesting.
This is the problem with the spin-offs of this franchise, two manga published in Champion RED in this month and both focus on the holy war against Hades (even if this is the main and most important battle of the Saints, now they are literally born for this battle), and the others (including the official sequel) are just another story with the Bronze Saints, even some happen in the same scenario as always or just try to focus on another fight against the Gold Saints, there is nothing original in this franchise.
The most interesting concept of a spin-off are the nine pages of the French Comic that will narrate the legend of the origin of the Cloths of the protagonists.
The Amazon website confirms that the first volume of the French Comic will be released on July 8.
I will read the chapter later to see if there is another interesting fact, at the moment the most interesting thing is that the Elysion has a day and night cycle, and we can see stars in the night sky, something that could confirm that Elysion is a universe or at least it is large enough to have stars in Dark Wing.
The Lost Canvas - Deuteros Special 02 (RAW)
Nothing interesting.
This is the problem with the spin-offs of this franchise, two manga published in Champion RED in this month and both focus on the holy war against Hades (even if this is the main and most important battle of the Saints, now they are literally born for this battle), and the others (including the official sequel) are just another story with the Bronze Saints, even some happen in the same scenario as always or just try to focus on another fight against the Gold Saints, there is nothing original in this franchise.
The most interesting concept of a spin-off are the nine pages of the French Comic that will narrate the legend of the origin of the Cloths of the protagonists.
The Amazon website confirms that the first volume of the French Comic will be released on July 8.
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This was explained in the previous chapter, Degel indicates that it is the official dress or uniform that the Saints wear on these missions outside of the Sanctuary.
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Other interesting details in the last chapter of Dark Wing.
It seems that Yoruhime can use the cosmos of Hades to modify the Elysion and make it a pleasant place for the souls that were transferred to this place.
Y: 冥界のほとんどが復旧中今
Y: このエリシオンに死者は流れてしまう
Y: 後らが静かで穏やかに着らすためには
Y: 資材... 施設もっと必要....
Y: エリシオンの安定と冥闘士の復活...
Y: ハーデス様の僅かな小宇宙を上手く使わないと
This could also be seen in chapter 2 where she gave Shoichiro a dark arrow with Hades' cosmos to kill Athena.
Wynver is described as the most dangerous of the three leaders of the Underworld.
Y: 冥界三巨頭の三巨頭の一人
Y: その中でも一番激しくヤバい
Y: 「大猛星ワイバーン」かと
Although this is not new and Wynver in the classic manga also stood out from the other two leaders. Now even in Next Dimension, Wynver will have to be ridiculously awesome for Athena's army to redouble its numbers and prove that the Specters are the biggest challenge for Athena's army, since the other two were already defeated and Griffon was even humiliated by an Ikki who can't win a fight against the Gold Saints in his way, and probably Papillon will be defeated by Tenma in the next chapters, therefore, Wynver and Deep (the only two decent Specters left alive in this army) will have to defeat many Saints, or maybe that fan theory will come true and after this time travel they will change the timeline and the Gold Saints will survive the battle against Hades and we will have the epic battle of the Sanctuary to save Athena from the fury of Olympus.
With Kurumada's obsession for the Gold Saints, the famous Olympus Saga that fans have been waiting for so long, will be an epic battle of the Gold Saints and Bronze Saints against Zeus and the rest of the Olympic Gods to save Athena, a great Saga that will probably be made and drawn by one of Kurumada's assistants with the help of Kurumada's son or family member, after he died of cirrhosis.
There are also some explanations about the evil stars and how they are connected to the cosmos of Hades, it's good to see when they drop that nonsense about people chosen to become Specters being reincarnations and start using the true interpretation of the concept created by Kurumada. Although it is still not very clear what the evil stars are, they only seem to be connected with the cosmos of Hades and Zhu in chapter 2 says that they are the spirit of a star, but they do not seem to be incorporeal objects (although they seem to affect the body and soul of the chosen person) since we saw how the evil stars damage the tower when they are released.
It seems that Yoruhime can use the cosmos of Hades to modify the Elysion and make it a pleasant place for the souls that were transferred to this place.
Y: このエリシオンに死者は流れてしまう
Y: 後らが静かで穏やかに着らすためには
Y: 資材... 施設もっと必要....
Y: エリシオンの安定と冥闘士の復活...
Y: ハーデス様の僅かな小宇宙を上手く使わないと
This could also be seen in chapter 2 where she gave Shoichiro a dark arrow with Hades' cosmos to kill Athena.
Wynver is described as the most dangerous of the three leaders of the Underworld.
Y: その中でも一番激しくヤバい
Y: 「大猛星ワイバーン」かと
Although this is not new and Wynver in the classic manga also stood out from the other two leaders. Now even in Next Dimension, Wynver will have to be ridiculously awesome for Athena's army to redouble its numbers and prove that the Specters are the biggest challenge for Athena's army, since the other two were already defeated and Griffon was even humiliated by an Ikki who can't win a fight against the Gold Saints in his way, and probably Papillon will be defeated by Tenma in the next chapters, therefore, Wynver and Deep (the only two decent Specters left alive in this army) will have to defeat many Saints, or maybe that fan theory will come true and after this time travel they will change the timeline and the Gold Saints will survive the battle against Hades and we will have the epic battle of the Sanctuary to save Athena from the fury of Olympus.
With Kurumada's obsession for the Gold Saints, the famous Olympus Saga that fans have been waiting for so long, will be an epic battle of the Gold Saints and Bronze Saints against Zeus and the rest of the Olympic Gods to save Athena, a great Saga that will probably be made and drawn by one of Kurumada's assistants with the help of Kurumada's son or family member, after he died of cirrhosis.
There are also some explanations about the evil stars and how they are connected to the cosmos of Hades, it's good to see when they drop that nonsense about people chosen to become Specters being reincarnations and start using the true interpretation of the concept created by Kurumada. Although it is still not very clear what the evil stars are, they only seem to be connected with the cosmos of Hades and Zhu in chapter 2 says that they are the spirit of a star, but they do not seem to be incorporeal objects (although they seem to affect the body and soul of the chosen person) since we saw how the evil stars damage the tower when they are released.
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She became an incorporeal or astral being after his body was destroyed. Something that is not new, because gods exist as incorporeal beings or souls, but it is good to see this explored in depth in a manga for Athena.
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No, because Hades was destroyed in body and soul in the classic manga, although in this manga his body was probably only destroyed like Athena in this chapter and that's why his soul still exists, and Zeus was only damaged, not completely destroyed and could only return thanks to a temporal anomaly created by the portal.
