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If Cinder already has a sub relativistic calc accepted then yeah I think it’s fine to bump her to 20% light speed
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RWBY: Light Speed Upgrade
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RWBY: Laser Feats
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Isn't this calc reliant on these weapons being stated to be lasers for it to be accepted? Because if they're being disagreed to being light speed these wouldn't be viableRWBY: Laser Feats
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Can someone actually get a clip of this scene
RWBY - Cinder dodging the return stroke of light of Ruby's Silver Eyes
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If yall want to take a crack at cleaning this calc up while im finishing the particle beam calc i'd appreciate it
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RWBY: Silver Eyes Argument
Guess I'm doing another CRT inside of my own CRT. CRTception.
Anyway, my argument is that Ruby's silver eyes are natural light and that RWBYverse as a whole can get upgraded due to characters reacting to said light.
The first thing I have to point out is that the God of Light is a primordial being made out of one half of a space dragon that was born at the beginning of time, the other half being his brother, the God of Darkness.
The Gods
The Gods are two immensely powerful beings that created Remnant. While there have been many various stories concerning the existence of dozens of deities, the only ones confirmed to actually exist are a pair of brothers: the God of Light and God of Darkness. The God of Light created the forces...
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The Two Brothers
"The Two Brothers is a fairy tale detailing more information on the Brother Gods. As detailed in the story, in the beginning of time, a lone Dragon traveled the universe in search of other beings like himself. Overcome with loneliness, the Dragon decided to create one himself. Despite being all powerful, even the Dragon had to split its magic in half – into two symmetrical forms, one of light and the other of shadow. Each side thought one was the original and the other was the copy. Despite different personalities, they were ever only complete when they were together."As it is strongly implied by Oz that every fairy tale has a measure of truth in them, we can assume that it was the God of Light's creation that brought forth all the natural light in the world.
Fairy Tales
For the real world book, see RWBY: Fairy Tales of Remnant. For the animated series, see RWBY: Fairy Tales. Fairy Tales are stories passed down through the history of Remnant. Although generally regarded as mere myths and legends, even the most unlikely of stories are said to have some basis in...
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"Ozpin notes that the Two Brothers appear in almost every creation story in various forms, but one thing is consistent: they arrived from a realm outside mankind's, and created the universe together out of nothing, leaving mankind on its own."
Here is further evidence backing up the point. The God of Light made all of the light in the universe. Also, we should really bump these guys up to uni lol.
"Nevertheless, the God of Darkness continued to secretly create more and more forms of Grimm whilst the God of Light planted a hidden gift in mankind to defend themselves from the monsters."
Here we see a statement that very strongly implies that the God of Light gifted humanity with a portion of its power, the silver eyes.
Here we see the God of Light performing a very similar flash to what Ruby uses for her silver eyes.
As seen here.
And here.
Thus, it can be said that Ruby's eyes are natural light. And thus, anyone reacting to such light would be moving at SoL.
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RWBY: Silver Eyes Argument
Guess I'm doing another CRT inside of my own CRT. CRTception.
Anyway, my argument is that Ruby's silver eyes are natural light and that RWBYverse as a whole can get upgraded due to characters reacting to said light.
The first thing I have to point out is that the God of Light is a primordial being made out of one half of a space dragon that was born at the beginning of time, the other half being his brother, the God of Darkness.
The Gods
The Gods are two immensely powerful beings that created Remnant. While there have been many various stories concerning the existence of dozens of deities, the only ones confirmed to actually exist are a pair of brothers: the God of Light and God of Darkness. The God of Light created the forces...
The Two Brothers
"The Two Brothers is a fairy tale detailing more information on the Brother Gods. As detailed in the story, in the beginning of time, a lone Dragon traveled the universe in search of other beings like himself. Overcome with loneliness, the Dragon decided to create one himself. Despite being all powerful, even the Dragon had to split its magic in half – into two symmetrical forms, one of light and the other of shadow. Each side thought one was the original and the other was the copy. Despite different personalities, they were ever only complete when they were together."
As it is strongly implied by Oz that every fairy tale has a measure of truth in them, we can assume that it was the God of Light's creation that brought forth all the natural light in the world.
Fairy Tales
For the real world book, see RWBY: Fairy Tales of Remnant. For the animated series, see RWBY: Fairy Tales. Fairy Tales are stories passed down through the history of Remnant. Although generally regarded as mere myths and legends, even the most unlikely of stories are said to have some basis in...
"Ozpin notes that the Two Brothers appear in almost every creation story in various forms, but one thing is consistent: they arrived from a realm outside mankind's, and created the universe together out of nothing, leaving mankind on its own."
Here is further evidence backing up the point. The God of Light made all of the light in the universe. Also, we should really bump these guys up to uni lol.
"Nevertheless, the God of Darkness continued to secretly create more and more forms of Grimm whilst the God of Light planted a hidden gift in mankind to defend themselves from the monsters."
Here we see a statement that very strongly implies that the God of Light gifted humanity with a portion of its power, the silver eyes.
Here we see the God of Light performing a very similar flash to what Ruby uses for her silver eyes.
As seen here.
And here.
Thus, it can be said that Ruby's eyes are natural light. And thus, anyone reacting to such light would be moving at SoL.
Its fine I think we all agree they're light
Given the clip I could do this calc however I can't evaluate my own calcRWBY - Cinder dodging the return stroke of light of Ruby's Silver Eyes
If yall want to take a crack at cleaning this calc up while im finishing the particle beam calc i'd appreciate it
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Fair fair. Still, it seems this is much stronger evidence then before.
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Theyre the same kind o laser as the spider droid's particle beams so
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I'll be honest, I posted that for Rusty since he REALLY goes in-depth with this stuff.
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I'm not sure about the calc above using the return stroke of light but cinders arms do move relative the light about 45 to 90 degrees before it even engulfs her yet after its fired so it'd for sure give some sub relative results
I'd need Rusty's opinion doing it the way the previous calc did it so I'll do it another way for now
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Also last question, what is cinders official height
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5'11" (1.80 meters)
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-Damn she's almost as tall as me
I can fix her
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Character's reacting to Ruby's Silver Eyes
Here is Cinder reacting to and moving before Ruby's light reaches her.
Here are just some basic Grimm reacting to the light before it hits them.
Here is the leviathan reacting to the blast before it hits him.
So, as we can see, it's fairly consistant.
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yeah naaaaaah I'm gonna call the super fodder dogshit grim reacting to that an outlier and PIS, I can't in good faith use that to argue consistency
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Technically she is 5'7 (She has the physical dimensions of her actress Jessica Nigiri) but she pretty much exclusively wears 4 inch heels so her overall height in most scenes is 5'11Damn she's almost as tall as me
I can fix her
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Well, TBF, lots of mooks in other verses are also SoL. But I won't argue too much.
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Would the leviathan still count tho?
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Yeah i wouldnt even bother trying to scale Grimm to that
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Thanks man. You're a real one.I'll get back to you on that one
let me handle this Cinder calc first
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Holy **** yeah nah cinder is def moving relative to light there
I'll make this a double calc blog
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I'd argue that the Leviathan is legit since he's litteraly one of the biggest and strongest Grimm we've seen so far.
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That surprised you?
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If this calc gets approved, would that also mean that the laser feats would also be approved too? Since, if we can prove RWBY characters can move rela to light with just the silver eyes calcs, that would mean that the burden of proof on the lasers would be lessened, right? Since it wouldn't be that big of a jump.
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It seemed less like it was reacting to the light and more that it was just reeling in pain
Otherwise that would be FTL because Ruby was literally inches from its face
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I mean, as a Grimm, it would have to know that Ruby's silver eyes are bad news. The second he saw that they were about to activate, he could be trying to look away or something. Again, the bigger and older the Grimm is, the smarter they are.
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crazy enough going by the frame by frame of these feats in particular in both cinder is quite literally the only one moving relative to the light in each in the rest everyone is frozen soooo like make of that what you will
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Cinder is a Maiden, she is faster than the majority of the cast by default
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Funny enough, the previous shot in the V5 clip had her and Jaune run at each other at the same speed.
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Also, it's like super super subtle, but in the V5 one you can see Vernal all the way to the side move her gun down while the light is coming out.
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