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RWBY Discussion thread 2

What........why?? No one fought the dragon though???? There's no scaling there at all. If everyone were 7-B then there would be A LOT less consistency "errors" in RWBY like Tyrian getting his tail cut off or Oscar hurting Hazel or Adam getting hurt by Blake while simultaneously being a threat to Cinder, Pyrrha fighting Cinder.

Ugh I give up. I'm not gonna try debunking the tiering of this verse on my own
 
No I mean that EVERYONE should be 7-B, including the students but that's not going to happen (despite me believing that's what it should be)
 
That IS good scaling however I'm pretty sure that scaling happened before we took into account that Maidens and Grimm are naturally weaker to Silver Eyes which kinda throws of the scaling there
 
"I see no reason for your cruelty towards young Cinder. She's become our Fall Maiden, destroyed Beacon Tower, and most importantly, killed dear Ozpin. So I'm curious, to what failures are you referring?" Salem

"Well, the girl with the Silver Eyes." Watts "It is because of the Maiden's power. Make no mistake, Cinder, you hold the key to our victory. But your newfound strength brings with it a crippling weakness. Which is why you will remain by my side as we continue your treatment." Salem Pretty heavily implied that the silver eyes are the weakness she's refuring to
 
^^^^yeah that right there is what I was referring to by Maidens being weak to Silver Eyes. If that weren't the case then Ruby would have a 7-B key for Silver Eyes
 
Silver Eyes is hax. That's like saying Homura should be 2-A in base because she has 2-A mind manip.
 
What else could it be? Ruby consistently uses it to trump things that are way above her paygrade, it can't simply be AP, because it would be so out of place. The only logical explanation is that it's hax.

Or it's like Samurai Jack's blade and only affects evil or something like that.
 
Well it could just be Silver Eyes being a separate power that gives her AP but again let's just wait till we've got more info on it before deciding
 
We don't even know how her Silver Eyes work so giving her an AP upgrade based on them makes no sense.
 
But Blake should seriously be 7-B if she knocked down Hazel right? That's the same reasoning for 7-B Oscar, which is way more Farfetch'd
 
Well my thought has always been they are all the same tier which would fix these inconsistencies EASILY. So other than that we just consider it an outlier
 
Why would we consider Blake who has shown more considerable prominence in the volume as a whole, let alone the series an outlier but not Oscar? Who is still the weakest and was the only one to faint cause of strain in that fight cause Ozpin was pushing his body's limits, which just shows its not Oscars real power. When they take over souls, since aura is different depending on souls, he should have Ozpins aura anyway
 
Oscar has what Blake does not. A magic man who has the arua of a psedo God possessing him.
 
Pfft, yeah, which is considered as completely separate to him and doesn't have his power. Unless you want to scale Oscar suddenly to Ozpin.

I honestly don't know why everyone is so crazy to upgrade someone for merely pushing back. We saw Hazel was bodying everyone after a short while anyway, so he was clearly holding back anyway
 
There's no way Hazel was holding back against Oscar. The reason is because he's only showed 7-B feats. So yes as weird as it may seem he excelled far faster than any of the other characters
 
He clearly was now, just because he was a little angry doesn't mean he was going full power,and was only using one aura injection, and then proceeded to overwhelm Oscar, Qrow and everyone else shortly afterwards. Nora even implied they weren't even phasing him. Ozpin as Oscar was finessing him and hitting blindspots which was the only reason he was going down. Until he actually got serious.

Still, Blake should totally be 7-B for the same reason as knocking him down. Heck, Hazel got pushed back a bit by Lionheart tumbling down the friggin stairs! Why are we upgrading characters based on them pushing someone back a little!

And Oscar fainted after Ozpin withdrew, implying his body was pushed too hard, or it was handling Ozpins 7-A aura, which it couldn't. Oh, and how his aura took a heavy hit (and depleted, aura depletes when signified by the flash, people trying to use inconsistent sounds to debunk smh.) By a mere warning shot from Lionheart

I honestly don't see how any of you cant see this
 
Look I get that it doesn't make sense but when a character has only 7-B feats then they have to be 7-B.

But again if they were all the same tier then they could all harm each other without issue......which I'm sure the show is going to continually prove to us.
 
Oscar doesn't have 7-B feats. Not when Lionheart, who clearly isn't 7-B physically, getting his aura depleted and scared off by Ruby, and getting outskilled by a newbie. He isn't 7-B, its clear. And everyone has been able to stagger Hazel a bit, Blake, Qrow, Ren, a falling down Lionheart, till he completely dominates and even forces Oscar back easily.

Who then collapses cause his body was pushed too hard unlike everyone else.

They aren't all the same tier, no.

Still,you can't call Blake the outlier when she's shown more feats and prominence than Oscar. Funny how no one actually brought any of this up while I was banned, the episodes have just been feeding me more evidence
 
>Brings up new points

What, I'm not allowed to argue about it?

There was hardly any discussion about the finale anyway lol. I knew no one would bring up how Blake was able to bring down Hazel...nor the fact Oscar literally fell unconscious cause his body was pushed too hard, just showing A) Ozpins aura took over and gave him that power, or B) he was physically straining to keep up.

Also how Lionheart was scared off by Ruby (And had his aura broken by a mere bullet) fodderized by a mere messenger Grimm...like seriously, don't tell me to stop when EVEN MORE evidence has been brought up.
 
I am .-. you're not even reading.

1) Blake knocked down Hazel, she should totally be 7-B just like Oscar, as well as having more justification as we have actually seen her in more fights and it not being too much of an asspull. According to the wikis logic. Or the obvious other way around

2) Lionheart yet again proving he sucks by getting offed by a mere messenger Grimm (trained professional pfft, disarmed in a second) and getting his aura broken by one of Ruby's bullets, an 8-A. Yet people still saying he's 7-B like smh

3)Oscar falling unconcious cause Ozpin pushed his body with 7-B aura, or he was physically straining himself. Either way, they prove my point.


Honestly, the ban was completely unjustified and now you're all going to find a way to do it again just because I'm simply putting out my opinion. Not even in a rude way, no matter how hard you people try to look to make it seem so. I honestly doubt anyone is offended and just does it cause they simply can't refute. I've seen it before on this wiki aswell
 
And no matter how cowardly you are, he shouldn't be scared off by a 8-A as a professional huntsman. I mean come on, the dude has obviously gone soft, and his cowardly nature has just evolved ever since he was owned by Salem.

I doubt Ozpin would have trusted him as one of the principals if he was this stupid and cowardly. But Ozpin is stupid, so it wouldn't surprise me
 
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