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They should get an official warning for this if this is their first offense.
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They should get an official warning for this if this is their first offense.
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Do to how many edits they've made it wont let me undo the edits.
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I've reverted it back to before they made their edits.
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Thank you very much
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I was about to do the warning thing, but it seems they acknowledged there mistake so I simply left a message.
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Hi! I'd like to report user @Veronica for consistent antagonistic and condescending remarks in dragon ball threads both against individual users (the one quoted below in particular aimed at me) and the fandom in general as well. She has consistently make such vitriolic and disparaging remarks despite being told off multiple times by staff such as @Damage3245 to drop it, which also include cluttering and derailing threads by peddling her own personal interpretation and rules for Dragon Ball scaling that the wiki has consistently rejected over and over (and thread banned her for as well)
On that note I should also add that this user has been reported and banned in multiple DB threads before for the exact same reason including but not limited to making threads that were against the rules as well. This user refuses to heed any warnings from staff.
If needed I can include more evidence and examples of this continued behavior as well from many different dragon ball threads.
On that note I should also add that this user has been reported and banned in multiple DB threads before for the exact same reason including but not limited to making threads that were against the rules as well. This user refuses to heed any warnings from staff.
If needed I can include more evidence and examples of this continued behavior as well from many different dragon ball threads.
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I would also like to add this, someone has to fix her, she is always sending spam in the general discussion and among others (it's all about the argument of Goku absorbing the God form for base), we're all tired of telling her to stop, but it never happens
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I didn't it bring it up for months. So keep the "spamming" nonsense accusations away.
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Serious? You made more than 5 crt on the subject in the past, Dragon Ball has been filling up super general discussion on the same subject, we have already asked you to stop that.
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That was around a year ago. If you think talking about it again in that timeframe is spam. Than by definition your comment is spamm and should be reported.
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This aggression is not entirely one-sided, so whether she is deserving of a warning is difficult to tell (or, indeed, if other parties may deserve one). She is aggressive, yes, but notably the "stop whining" comment came after a comment against her that wasn't exactly kind or fruitful.
If you have a great deal of recent evidence, then yes, you should probably show it to the class for proper consideration.
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I agree that she is persistently pesky on nearly every Dragon Ball related thread she seems to partake in. And seems to consistently dodge the bullet on nearly every Dragon Ball specific discussion rule. While she's not the most hostile person ever, she tends to get quite obnoxious about the whole Goku Vs Beerus feat and ignores the very basic face value evidence. And has a history of seeming feigning ignorance and a tendency to be oblivious for what she did wrong. Even to the point where she has been topic banned before and made a thread during a topic ban thus basically alluding her own topic ban.
While I don't think she needs another ban at least not right away, a final warning to stop seems reasonable.
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I'll note that Veronica does not have any warnings on our tracker. This would be her first.
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All of that got refuted. Monaka Beerus vs Goku is SBG concept being used from RoF, being a writing mistake like the copy-Vegeta as both are filler and contradicting U6 arc. So it isn't a coincidence. Also refute my explanation. Btw you can call me "ignorant and obnoxious" but saying" whiny" goes to far?!
Which is quite ironic, since you are the one that believes U6 SSJ3 Goku would be 400x SSG. Which is completely false and ignorant. When SSB is only described as 50x SSG. Yet, you magically make SSB 10 million times SSG.
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The best evidence for the behavior and the one DDM mentioned is right here in front of you
Though if insufficient I’ll post more soon
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She's been thread banned on Dragon Ball for a similar thing before. You can check her profile, as Agnaa giving the official threadban message is the most recent conversation on her profile
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Damage already made a small step towards my way. Showing I'm factualy right
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Not my point. You've been repeatedly been condescending, antagonistic, and overall super insistent on having your way no matter what in Damage's thread. You've been asked to stop repeatedly, including twice by Damage, and you've ignored such things every time. This behavior's gotten you banned from discussing Dragon Ball before, and you haven't changed it at all.
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I make only remarks towards arguments not the person, which isn't a fallacy. The thread showed my insistent is right though. Also I got banned not because of my "behavior" but because is was a closet subject from what I remember. I could be wrong.
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As one of the staff that participated on the discussion rule added because of her and her subsequent topic ban, this is because her issues were ignored for a time until it was decided to directly topic ban without warning after enough evidence of her continued derailment and spam were shown.
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Aye, this had been mentioned afterwards. Without the further evidence being brought in from then to now, though, I'd still be opposed to anything more than a bog standard warning.
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I and many others have never "Ignored her" per say, but all of her issues were based solely on knit picks, Goku and Vegeta getting stronger as the series progresses is the most face value fact about what Dragon Ball is all about. And there's too much over reliance on something that was completely retconned. There never was such a form called "Saiyan Beyond God" and was at best a title for someone who could showcase Cosmic levels of power never thought seen without a SSG form, but able to input the same level of power in their base forms. And Goku and Vegeta having their base forms surpass how strong SSG/SSB forms were previously also happens multiple times hence the stacked up power scaling chains. And the only argument she can basically ever give is "They are not SSG tier because I said so." That's exactly why people have issues with her.
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I meant ignore as in, never given a warning.
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Oh, So overlooked and forgot to warn her would be the better wording then.
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Is it allowed to post memes of victory? Also my pronounce are hir/hirs
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You're only making things worse for yourself.
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Nvm than
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Bump
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People are distorting my crt with random things, could you delete the unnecessary things please
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I don't get why people do this. It makes it seem like there's a lotta people in agreement, when it's just randoms with no voting rights 99% of the time. Like, no disrespect, but this thread right now only has one staff voting against and it makes it seem like it's a landslide Blue people are...
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no one is doing that. people are countering your arguments. aside from 1 or 2 posts, no one has been derailing and has been on topic for the thread.People are distorting my crt with random things, could you delete the unnecessary things please
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I don't get why people do this. It makes it seem like there's a lotta people in agreement, when it's just randoms with no voting rights 99% of the time. Like, no disrespect, but this thread right now only has one staff voting against and it makes it seem like it's a landslide Blue people are...
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Of course
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I don't get why people do this. It makes it seem like there's a lotta people in agreement, when it's just randoms with no voting rights 99% of the time. Like, no disrespect, but this thread right now only has one staff voting against and it makes it seem like it's a landslide Blue people are...
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Of course
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I don't get why people do this. It makes it seem like there's a lotta people in agreement, when it's just randoms with no voting rights 99% of the time. Like, no disrespect, but this thread right now only has one staff voting against and it makes it seem like it's a landslide Blue people are...
and lets not forget that was something that you started yourself
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Ped is being a nuisance. The conversation otherwise isn't fully restrained but he is intentionally egging it on. Should be warned, as he's been lightly warned before but never added to the tracker.
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I was shown this by I was shown this by users who thought it was suspicious so I wanted to bring it up preemptively but a user is very very likely using exploits to try and justify an upgrade.
Essentially what stuck out to them was the fact that one Arthur Morgan with no boost somehow survived a point blank dynamite explosion something they and myself knew is always an instant kill but moreso the fact thay strangely for the first half of the clip the calcer stands still not moving for about almost the full first 30 seconds of the video prior to doing something already normally impossible in the game.
@Chariot190 has also wrote him on his wall asking about the clip inquiring about how he survived this to verify the validity of him trying to justify durability scaling for the calc.
For context here Arthur Morgan is instant killed by even a single dynamite stick under normal circumstances without the consumption of health tonics which essentially act as a multiplier for his health and fortitude in the game. Their activation is easily discernable by Arthur's health having a golden ring around the heart in the corner, something which is clearly missing from the video in the calc. Worst is that just using a tonic isn't an end all be all to your survival either, see here in these 3 videos.
This is no tonic, level one tonic, and level two tonic.
You'd need 2 full layers of amps from tonics to even remotely survive what he survives in the clip as even with level 1 tonics you still instantly die and even then with level 2 it leaves Arthur near death as you can see. Now this would normally be something I'd treat as them just happening upon a staged video but what's bad is that this new user does this as their first and only calc with the video being uploaded right alongside the same time as the blogs creation and posting on a Youtube channel with no videos prior to this one, that is to say the coincidence of just happen to find this exploited gameplay that was posted right alongside the time of the creation of the blog and using it for the basis of the calc seems just to convenient to be coincidence I think.
That all coupled with the strange clip with him waiting for a while as if he was doing something else in the background, it just all feels a bit off to me after being shown it for myself.
Essentially what stuck out to them was the fact that one Arthur Morgan with no boost somehow survived a point blank dynamite explosion something they and myself knew is always an instant kill but moreso the fact thay strangely for the first half of the clip the calcer stands still not moving for about almost the full first 30 seconds of the video prior to doing something already normally impossible in the game.
@Chariot190 has also wrote him on his wall asking about the clip inquiring about how he survived this to verify the validity of him trying to justify durability scaling for the calc.
For context here Arthur Morgan is instant killed by even a single dynamite stick under normal circumstances without the consumption of health tonics which essentially act as a multiplier for his health and fortitude in the game. Their activation is easily discernable by Arthur's health having a golden ring around the heart in the corner, something which is clearly missing from the video in the calc. Worst is that just using a tonic isn't an end all be all to your survival either, see here in these 3 videos.
This is no tonic, level one tonic, and level two tonic.
You'd need 2 full layers of amps from tonics to even remotely survive what he survives in the clip as even with level 1 tonics you still instantly die and even then with level 2 it leaves Arthur near death as you can see. Now this would normally be something I'd treat as them just happening upon a staged video but what's bad is that this new user does this as their first and only calc with the video being uploaded right alongside the same time as the blogs creation and posting on a Youtube channel with no videos prior to this one, that is to say the coincidence of just happen to find this exploited gameplay that was posted right alongside the time of the creation of the blog and using it for the basis of the calc seems just to convenient to be coincidence I think.
That all coupled with the strange clip with him waiting for a while as if he was doing something else in the background, it just all feels a bit off to me after being shown it for myself.
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I’m not gonna lie, based off the proof this is clearly cheating/exploiting. If this is their first calc / contribution and it’s something meant to falsify statistics through what could normally be overlooked I say permaban, this is extremely deceptive, beyond what’s normally seen, imo.
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Gonna be honest, the only thing I can think of at the moment is that the user hacked the game in some way to make Arthur invulnerable to damage. I don't want to jump to conclusions immediately, but considering also the fact that this is a new user and this is their only major contribution, it seems quite likely. If that's the case, I'd permaban them, as this is very deceptive behavior done in an attempt to upgrade the verse.
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I can definitely agree to a warning here
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Light warning seems fine for now.
Calculation Manipulation is indeed a serious offense if that is what's going on. I mostly skimmed and currently tied up with notification swarm to read up full context. Though based on Dalesean and Clover's reaction. It seems a permaban is indeed agreed.
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I agree that this is an instance of at least untruthfulness, but I'm curious if this is an exploit in the game or outright hacking: the latter would constitute a far more severe level of untruthfulness, in my view, and would indeed support an instant, permanent ban. Otherwise, I think the punishment should be lighter as a very strong first warning: perhaps a ban spanning several months, instead.
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