that wasn't a troll thread. it was a revision i tried to make during the forum move. i failed because it was a revision i tried to make during the forum move. i don't see how "uses a vulgar metaphor" instantly translates to "entire thread is trolling lol". i'm not a troll...
Considering his previous behavior and bans, I suggest a permanent ban.
...buuut this seems like a really good way of creating one. how counterproductive.
We cannot permanently ban him for being juvenile and annoying. A few months may or may not be acceptable though.
do you think i'm actively
trying to be annoying? because i'm not. i am simply an annoying person. i don't know how to change that, and i doubt there are any good methods anyways.
I suppose that is another idea. He seems incapable of shaping up his generally obnoxious behaviour though, which wastes the time of everybody else.
"we should ban this user for wasting other people's time"
- the guy who runs a vs debate wiki and in the process has likely assisted in wasting years of other people's time
Perhaps a very short block? Bigsmoke does seem unwilling to shape up, though his offenses aren’t too terribly bad.
*unable
I don't really see the point in giving him another warning if he's refused to shape up after his previous warns.
there is a difference between refusing to do something and not knowing how to do it in the first place. if i
did know how to change it, though, i probably
would refuse. why? because i'm not getting rid of my personality traits for the sake of a ******* vs debate wiki.
The issue is that he is just obnoxious, and that's it. He doesn't spam, derail, threaten, insult, or harrass, for example.
ehhhh.. i've briefly derailed this thread before. i apologize for that. i've likely insulted people as well. definitely insulted pan before, if that counts at all. i'm not gonna apologize for insulting someone who threatened to burn me and my family alive though.
I'm still a huge fan of a stern, last-chance warning. Smoke did something that was harmless, and though it was obnoxious, this does not mean he deserves a TWO WEEK BAN. Can we please not overreact here?
key words being "last chance". this means that, if i do another harmless thing that
anyone at all finds annoying, i will be permabanned.
We know he has ban banned for 3 months I believe, but that situation was far worse.
i still believe that the three month ban was an overreaction. the situation was me arguing that a certain character should be allowed here. i had already argued about this, and an admin told me not to bring it up again, but the rules had changed to allow human level characters (or something). i know, i know, it's
unforgivable. the entire
wiki was on the
verge of
collapse as a result. how could
anyone do something so
horrible?
Two weeks is nothing
If this person has willfully continued their negative actions they deserve a month
i really can't understand how every ******* person i meet manages to believe that everything i do wrong is
intentional. i am not
trying to be annoying. i'm trying to enjoy myself. problem is, nobody else seems to have that goal in mind.
I've been constantly seeing reports against BigSmoke so much that it's also wasting not just my time, but other people's time.
is that what this is about? because it sounds a lot more like these people are wasting their own time.
So, this time, I think a warning that could properly shape up his behavior, or convey that this is the last warning (and anymore would lead to some sort of punishment) would be nice.
once again, i don't know how to change.
I support a short ban for Bigsmoke. Why keep letting him off with just warnings if that’s demonstratively not working?
that's because from your perspective, if i'm still obnoxious, it automatically means the warnings aren't working. you should probably understand, i don't actively attempt to annoy people. it just happens.
long story short, you guys are perceiving dumb jokes and tactlessness as intentional trolling, while they're really just byproducts of my existence. as of now, i can't change these things.
