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Matthew has helped out a massive amount over the years, so he has more leeway than a new member who has not helped out at all, but I also think that he stepped over the line above, and removed his remaining posts.
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
My apologies, but still, my point stands there was an instant disproportionate leap in punishment in Matt vs MGR.
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To be fair I personally was happy with some amount of ban time for both LordGinSama and Matthew, but I didn't want to post on it and push for it when it looked like things were calming down on the thread.

MGR and his punishment is a new issue.
 
Antvasima said:
Matthew has helped out a massive amount over the years, so he has more leeway than a new member who has not helped out at all, but I also think that he stepped over the line above, and removed his remaining posts.
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Whether he helped for 2 or 4 years, that's irrelevant. What he did was against Fandom rules as a whole, as stated by DDM, so his run time on the wiki has no weight whatsoever.
 
Antvasima said:
Matthew has helped out a massive amount over the years, so he has more leeway than a new member who has not helped out at all, but I also think that he stepped over the line above, and removed his remaining posts.
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Ant, no amount of work over fictional characters can even compare to accusing someone of racism and child pornography. If things like that continue to slide, people are going to detest and distrust the moderators even more.
 
Damage3245 said:
To be fair I personally was happy with some amount of ban time for both LordGinSama and Matthew, but I didn't want to post on it and push for it when it looked like things were calming down on the thread.

MGR and his punishment is a new issue.
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That’s fine, I’m just pointing out there is a clear difference between who gets punished vs pinched.
 
@Milly_Rocking_Bandit both cases are not the same. For Matt, the information already reached the HR group but most people were asleep at the time. On the other hand, MGR's case blatantly implies that he has no intention of shaping up or being useful to the community.
 
To get us back on topic, I support AKM's suggestion of 6 months ban time and we consider the matter done until we see if they shape up after their ban time expires.
 
AKM sama said:
@Milly_Rocking_Bandit both cases are not the same. For Matt, the information already reached the HR group but most people were asleep at the time. On the other hand, MGR's case blatantly implies that he has no intention of shaping up or being useful to the community.
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Okay, but all I’m saying is what are they going to do him? MGR was about to get banned for essentially saying the wiki sucked, but accusing someone of racism and supporting CP will never compare.
 
Antvasima said:
Matthew has helped out a massive amount over the years, so he has more leeway than a new member who has not helped out at all, but I also think that he stepped over the line above, and removed his remaining posts.
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I understand where this argument is coming from, but I feel it is just used too frequently and excessively to ignore. All this should demonstrate is nothing more than the fact that they have examples of being a helpful individual and may be generally more trustworthy than the other person in this situation, not that they should be free of blame or punishment for serious actions.

As usual for any staff related matter, I'm sincerely hopeful that this can simply be resolved by HR, rather than making another ruckus about it. But despite having not had much comment on this matter beyond what's already been stated, I feel it's important to acknowledge this specific argument. It's used incredibly frequently in situations of staff members causing problems, yet it should not be relevant in the vast majority of these situations.
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
Ant, no amount of work over fictional characters can even compare to accusing someone of racism and child pornography. If things like that continue to slide, people are going to detest and distrust the moderators even more.
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I obviously agree that it is not acceptable, yes. Matthew has placed us in a very bad position here.

I have talked with Lina a lot over the years, and he does have a history of being mentally unstable and rather paranoid, but then so do I, and neither of us are remotely Nazis because of that.
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
My apologies, but still, my point stands there was an instant disproportionate leap in punishment in Matt vs MGR.
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I know exactly what you mean, I’ll explain it for others since I’m always on this thread.

MGR flat out bashed the wiki. It’s not like a personal issue with another member (like Matt), he flat out called them biased little ***** and he wouldn’t care if he got banned. That (especially the second one) is flat out saying “do what you want, idc”.

When a staff does something wrong, HR discusses it. That’s that.

And like a lot people have stated, he has done a lot. Maybe HR is trying to weigh all his broken rules and such, idk, but we can’t question the process.

Me personally, I have no interest in his punishment (since it genuinely doesn’t affect me in the slightest) and I say we leave his punishment and the process of it to HR. That’s that.
 
Antvasima said:
I obviously agree that it is not acceptable, yes. Matthew has placed us in a very bad position here.

That said, I have talked with Lina a lot over the years, and he does have a history of being mentally unstable and rather paranoid, but then so do I, and neither of us are remotely Nazis because of that.
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All I’m saying is, whatever happens to Matthew (out of my judgement), should be given some intensive thought. The state of this wiki is very fragile at the moment, and many members are unhappy. The outcome of it could cause a lot of unrest.
 
Yes, I agree that Matthew has likely pushed too far this time, especially in combination with his other behaviour over the years, but it is not up to me to decide, and should not be discussed further in public, as it causes drama.
 
I'm reporting Super Ascended Sean Pazdera because he repeatedly publishes low-quality and incomplete profiles, which always have to be fixed by other users.

Recent example: Rockruff (Pokémon Horizons) (edit history): It lacks the notable victories and losses section, categories, links to statistics pages, the keys aren't bolded, the image isn't on the right of the page etc...
Other examples of profiles that have been fixed by others in various ways: Red (Pokémon Let's Go), Peony, ZERO-ONE, Power Stones, The Black Fog

Ant also left him two messages in his wall to warn him of the several errors he made, but he didn't learn.

This report isn't to ban him from making profiles, I just want him to check his profiles before publishing them and correct all the possible mistakes.
 
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Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera said:
I come from a time where we actually had a template for this things instead of eyeballing everything, nor was I even told I had to do multiple of the things he said, but yes, I can.
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vsbattles.fandom.com

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...
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Well, you could have looked at the edits on the profiles you made or the messages Ant left you two times, with even the common editing mistakes page linked.
But also looking at all other profiles can be useful to get an idea of the standard formats, that are linked in the homepage anyway on the button "guidelines".
 
You have to write them at the end of the profile, like this:

[[Category:Characters]]

But it's quicker to add them after you publish the profile, the important is adding them.
 
Yeah, the move did make it where the's more work to type in categories instead of it being on the side, but it's easier to move specific categories around. Such as Category:Characters being on top and Tiers from weakest to strongest at the bottom.

But anyway, Saman is right categories like this are important when publishing pages.
 
You can either do it in the source code or go into the settings drop down menu in the top right of the screen and add them from there.
 
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