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Banning someone for being suicidal seems a bit cruel, to say the least
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Falls here, unfortunately:Banning someone for being suicidal seems a bit cruel, to say the least
Suicide: You are NOT allowed to ask how you can kill yourself, and you are especially not allowed to post suggestions or to encourage other people to do it. The latter will result in an immediate ban without any warning.
"The latter," referring to encouraging other people to do it, no?Falls here, unfortunately:
I wasn't sure myself what to do here, which is why I contacted Bambu first.I think a perma-ban in this situation might be a bit too harsh. I think the comment should be deleted and the user given a first and final warning on the subject.
Judging by the OP of the thread, it's possible the user may want to be banned anyway.
I've deleted the comment.I think a perma-ban in this situation might be a bit too harsh. I think the comment should be deleted and the user given a first and final warning on the subject.
Judging by the OP of the thread, it's possible the user may want to be banned anyway.
You can delete my message later but i want to bring this out again to be resolvedDeagonx banned thread me from a staff thread because i posted a question on a thread (asking if infinite sized universe can have finite energy because one of the argument was that the universe had finite energy). And have say that i only got authorisation to say a quick thing when it's false. Crimson give me authorisation to debate normaly.
Simply "being Suicidal" is not ban worthy at all period. Otherwise, even some of the highest up staff members on this entire forum would have been a long time ago, myself included. But if one is suicidal, there are appropriate ways and inappropriate ways to handle it.Banning someone for being suicidal seems a bit cruel, to say the least
I asked crimson first in discord and firestorm after since crimson was ocupied. You don't need to lie to have your agument you knowI got his authorization mixed up with another user, but it turns out he did ask Firestorm for permission, got told no, and then went to Crimson instead.
Regardless, I stand by my above decision. He was asked to hold off from the arguing and refused to do so repeatedly, so I gave him a temporary thread ban.
I'm pretty sure Sniper was asking how to delete their account, no clue how you got "asking for ways to commit suicide" from that,Literally making a thread just to ask for ways to commit suicide in hopes that people would actually encourage some of those methods is literally going far and intentionally spewing drama. And yeah, especially if threads like that are made out of bait and thus intentionally mocking people who struggle with that. This is a case where Sniper clearly was dumping this type of stuff inappropriately and crosses trolling territory. This is not something we should be tolerating here at all.
Yeah but to have the full body of evidence, the knowledge member who are not staff member need to be able to comment. (At least some of them)I prefer it to be a staff discussion thread as, similar to MG, it is a verse where very very strong opinions run wild, and even with the limited participation it has already become a bit messy.
The contentions in question are clear, what's needed is the full body of evidence and for staff to assess it.
But this isn't really an RVR report.
Several such members have already commented very long arguments against the thread and further clarified their views and arguments throughout the discussion with Chase. They will be able to give more input later when it is needed, but we can't just have Chase and Paul restating their opinions at each other back and forth in perpetuity.Yeah but to have the full body of evidence, the knowledge member who are not staff member need to be able to comment. (At least some of them)
Yes, that is correct. We do not ban people for being suicidally depressed. We try to help them as best as we are able."The latter," referring to encouraging other people to do it, no?
Wait a minute. I thought that he just asked for a ban since he feels suicidal.Simply "being Suicidal" is not ban worthy at all period. Otherwise, even some of the highest up staff members on this entire forum would have been a long time ago, myself included. But if one is suicidal, there are appropriate ways and inappropriate ways to handle it.
Literally making a thread just to ask for ways to commit suicide in hopes that people would actually encourage some of those methods is literally going far and intentionally spewing drama. And yeah, especially if threads like that are made out of bait and thus intentionally mocking people who struggle with that. This is a case where Sniper clearly was dumping this type of stuff inappropriately and crosses trolling territory. This is not something we should be tolerating here at all.
Ya, I assume DDM misunderstood it. The OP content is nowhere suicidal encouraging.Wait a minute. I thought that he just asked for a ban since he feels suicidal.
I have deleted it already, and also, what Dread said is correct.Um... Not really sure if this belongs here, but it is a rather... questionable (awful) profile.
Rushsound (form 2)
Rushsound is an entity from the backroom Chinese branch that possesses extraordinary abilities that cannot be destroyed or killed. It has the unfortunate ability to be immortal, it has Form 1 and Form 2, and the power of From 2 is far greater than that of Form 1, and the ability from 2 allows it...vsbattles.fandom.com
I undid the troll edits.Deku's page has been vandalized
I blocked the vandal and undid his edits to another page.Deku's page has been vandalized
Indeed, our intervention is only necessary in cases where members are promoting or inciting suicide, as this behavior is deemed unethical and intolerableYes, of course we should delete such threads and posts. I am just saying that banning people simply for having suicidal thoughts seems like a destructive overreaction.
Wait a minute. I thought that he just asked for a ban since he feels suicidal.
The way I interpreted it was his OP said, "What is one way he could have his account terminated for no chance for return." And when he randomly said that, it sounded like if he was asking if that could be one method (Which is obviously a really bad thing to resort to). And his OP was still worded awkwardly as opposed to him specifically asking how does he shut down his account manually. And he could have just said something like, "I am feeling depressed and possibly struggling with suicide to the point where I simply don't want to be here anymore" as opposed to how casual sounding way he said "Suicide maybe?"Ya, I assume DDM misunderstood it. The OP content is nowhere suicidal encouraging.
Seems like he got globally bannedThis user has been deleting entire pages and replaced their content with troll comments, I don't think a warning is required based from what I've seen.
The several such members you mention happen to be basically just me (outside of Paul) who you ban threaded (because i reposted a comment you didn't even tell me why you deleted and that could had an importance and that you mixed up me with someone else for the authorisation.)Several such members have already commented very long arguments against the thread and further clarified their views and arguments throughout the discussion with Chase. They will be able to give more input later when it is needed, but we can't just have Chase and Paul restating their opinions at each other back and forth in perpetuity.
It's fairly straightforward. A user sought permission to make a thread downgrading the Fate/Nasuverse cosmology in Staff Discussion from Qawsedf, who granted it.@Mr._Bambu @DarkDragonMedeus @Deagonx
Can you investigate and try to find a peaceful and reasonable solution to the issue mentioned by Regidian in the last post of this thread please?
It being like that is not that bad, i already tell it, but the temporary ban thread you give me. I'm pretty sure the reason are not enough to get one and having Paul as a sole defender in a such important thread is clearly weird.It's fairly straightforward. A user sought permission to make a thread downgrading the Fate/Nasuverse cosmology in Staff Discussion from Qawsedf, who granted it.
Some of the supporters of the verse are upset that it was made a staff discussion thread and want more free reign to comment, but given how volatile of a subject it is I think it should remain in staff discussion and I think Qawsedf was right to permit it.
It's not really RVR related, but they've brought it up here, on my wall, on Discord, in my private messages, et cetera.
My stance remains firm. We don't need a dozen people arguing at once. Firestorm and I are discussing it in the thread with one of the main supporters and knowledgeable mods on the subject
I feel like you are being too paranoid that we'll get an another MG situation which aren't true at allIt's fairly straightforward. A user sought permission to make a thread downgrading the Fate/Nasuverse cosmology in Staff Discussion from Qawsedf, who granted it.
Some of the supporters of the verse are upset that it was made a staff discussion thread and want more free reign to comment, but given how volatile of a subject it is I think it should remain in staff discussion and I think Qawsedf was right to permit it.
It's not really RVR related, but they've brought it up here, on my wall, on Discord, in my private messages, et cetera.
My stance remains firm. We don't need a dozen people arguing at once. Firestorm and I are discussing it in the thread with one of the main supporters and knowledgeable mods on the subject
Seems like a reasonable take on the matter, but I would perhaps think it might be fair to choose a supporter or two to also have permission to comment.It's fairly straightforward. A user sought permission to make a thread downgrading the Fate/Nasuverse cosmology in Staff Discussion from Qawsedf, who granted it.
Some of the supporters of the verse are upset that it was made a staff discussion thread and want more free reign to comment, but given how volatile of a subject it is I think it should remain in staff discussion and I think Qawsedf was right to permit it.
It's not really RVR related, but they've brought it up here, on my wall, on Discord, in my private messages, et cetera.
My stance remains firm. We don't need a dozen people arguing at once. Firestorm and I are discussing it in the thread with one of the main supporters and knowledgeable mods on the subject
Exactly what we want to right nowSeems like a reasonable take on the matter, but I would perhaps think it might be fair to choose a supporter or two to also have permission to comment.