Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
The guy edited the profile again...Rolled them back, warned the dude.
The guy edited the profile again...
Strangely, yes.He got a warning yet still did it anyway?
That's what they said when they realized the screenshots were shared, but at the same time. That contradicts what they said earlier again that the scans were provided above. Also, while I do not know who Josh05 is, he was reporting the transcending with good intentions as he simply wanted to inform the staff about their shady characteristics and not so pleasant motives.First of all, I know the accusation that they intentionally trigger people wasn’t true because I was actually sent screenshots of the conversation. And in that conversation they were talking about why emotional intelligence matters in debating and that some people argue to exploit other peoples emotions. They never claimed they did so.
DeagonX already explained above that he was the one getting harassed by Beyond_Transcending. He had BT blocked on discord, so someone with no mutual friends or groups friend requested him, he accepted, and was immediately dragged into a group where BT was all caps raging at him for reporting him. But it's up to @Deagonx if he wants to continue that further which he probably doesn't.Also what evidence do you have for the harassment stuff? And why would they get banned for something people who they know potentially did?
There are witnesses of them harassing people who try to report them for their shady characteristics is something they have done in a lot of places. Plus their borderline harassment of Deagonx is still not excusable.Also I’m not interfering with the staff. I’m simply questioning you on your claims and questioning why they weren’t allowed to defend themselves against what they’re being accused of doing. As of right now it seems like we’re just hearing one side and not the other.
What did they say earlier that contradicts what was said in the conversation? Do you have some other screenshot that proves they actually argue to trigger peoples emotions? Im asking because as I already explained the actual conversation doesn’t prove that at all.That's what they said when they realized the screenshots were shared, but at the same time. That contradicts what they said earlier again that the scans were provided above.
First of all I’ve seen that screenshot as well, and BT made one comment in caps that was directed at his friend and not Deagonx. And from my experience of having seen B_T interact with people who he’s friends with, they always talk like that to each other.DeagonX already explained above that he was the one getting harassed by Beyond_Transcending. He had BT blocked on discord, so someone with no mutual friends or groups friend requested him, he accepted, and was immediately dragged into a group where BT was all caps raging at him for reporting him. But it's up to @Deagonx if he wants to continue that further which he probably doesn't.
Why are you saying “a lot of places”? The only other place the two transcendings are really active for debating is Quora. And on Quora I can’t find a single post of them harassing people who’ve tried to report them. The only thing they’ve ever did was leak screenshots of people talking shit about them and another person named Michael Julius. However the two Transcendings never told Michael Julius to harass anyone. MichaelJulius is a user on Quora and on this site, who Deagonx harassed a couple years ago by making dozens of accounts to pursue arguments with him so he can evade every time Michael blocked him. Ever since then, Michael has basically had beef with Deagonx and anyone associated with him.There are witnesses of them harassing people who try to report them for their shady characteristics is something they have done in a lot of places. Plus their borderline harassment of Deagonx is still not excusable.
You certainly claimed they did, but you didn't showcase it, no.I digress, as I already showcased they never harassed Deagonx
The only thing they’ve ever did was leak screenshots of people talking shit about them
This is Socrates' technique to win debates, one of the reasons why he is executed.I want to add those screenshots to the conversations, not sure if they are shared yet or not, but this is what I received privately.
Note: I am not choosing any sides, wanted to share the relevant screenshots that I got privately.
It’s about evidence. Medeus is claiming that the two Transcendings contradicted themselves but didn’t post any evidence for it.Xearsay, no one owes you an explanation.
Yes I did showcase it. As shown in the screenshot nothing in that conversation shows B_T raging at you or harassing you. B_T simply asked “why was I banned” and then started talking to his friend.You certainly claimed they did, but you didn't showcase it, no.
Frankly, the only reason Xearsay is here doggedly defending them is because he's been in on their antics, he was part of the vote manipulation but avoided a ban somehow, and he's also been harassing me for years including doxxing me on Reddit and attempting to get me banned here multiple times as well which failed.
He's just part of the same group of toxic debaters, and wants his friends unbanned so they can keep causing trouble here. I don't think he should be indulged on this thread any further.
Infiltrate? People within that server sent them a single screenshot. How is B_T posting a screenshot of someone talking shit about him, harassing those people?Infiltrating multiple discord servers that were created specifically to exclude them, and then creating public debacles by posting screenshots from those servers where people said negative things about you is absolutely harassment. So thank you for confirming that.
Once again. No one owes you an explanation.Medeus is claiming that the two Transcendings contradicted themselves but didn’t post any evidence for it.
This is no different from you claiming you've "proven" things in CRTs by stating your opinion. It doesn't matter that you think you've showcased a lack of harassment.Yes I did showcase
Yes, you were. You commented identical generic FRAs on their CRTs at the exact same time as their other friends and they admitted to sending your their CRTs for this purpose.No I wasn’t part of any voter manipulation
Yes, you have. You have even doxxed me and attempted to get me banned on false premises.Nor have I harassed you
Basic things like this shouldn't need to be explained to you. Making a public spectacle of every time someone disses you in a private conversation is absolutely harassment, and getting spies into discord servers you were explicitly excluded from for the purpose of getting screenshots of people dissing you in order to post them publicly is absolutely harassment.Infiltrate? People within that server sent them a single screenshot. How is B_T posting a screenshot of someone talking shit about him, harassing those people?
It’s Medeus’s burden to prove. So yes I am owed an explanation and evidence.Once again. No one owes you an explanation.
This isn’t an opinion. There’s literally nothing in the screenshot that shows B_T raging at you and harassing you.This is no different from you claiming you've "proven" things in CRTs by stating your opinion. It doesn't matter that you think you've showcased a lack of harassment.
Me agreeing with their threads isn’t proof that I took part in voter manipulation. additionally, I argued in those threads, I didn’t only type “I agree FRA.” I agreed with their threads because I hold a similar interpretation of DC as them. Also where did they admit that they sent me control threads and told me to agree with it? Because that literally never happened.Yes, you were. You commented identical generic FRAs on their CRTs at the exact same time as their other friends and they admitted to sending your their CRTs for this purpose.
No I haven’t harassed you. I left multiple battleboarding spaces just to get away from you. The only reason you’re saying stuff like this is to try and distract from the current topic.Yes, you have. You have even doxxed me and attempted to get me banned on false premises.
It wasn’t every time, B_T made like maybe one or two post containing a screenshot of people talking shit about him. Sure you don’t have to explain how it’s harassment, but I don’t know what you’re attempting to prove if you’re not going to even explain how B_Ts actions qualify as harassment.Basic things like this shouldn't need to be explained to you. Making a public spectacle of every time someone disses you in a private conversation is absolutely harassment, and getting spies into discord servers you were explicitly excluded from for the purpose of getting screenshots of people dissing you in order to post them publicly is absolutely harassment.
No. You aren't. It is not Medeus' job to convince you.It’s Medeus’s burden to prove. So yes I am owed an explanation.
Your dogmatic insistence that your opinions are facts is just as out of place here as it is on your various rejected CRTs.This isn’t an opinion
Given your odd notion of what harassment is, I'm entirely convinced you actually believe this, but it's neither here nor there. You have absolutely harassed me, doxxed me, and tried to get me banned. Not unlike the Transcendings.No I haven’t harassed you.
This means literally nothing and it's telling that you think this is even worth mentioning.It wasn’t every time
Because for anyone with normal morals, it's incredibly obvious and you not feeling convinced doesn't matter. This is a staff discussion forum, your opinion means nothing here.but I don’t know what you’re attempting to prove if you’re not going to even explain how B_Ts actions qualify as harassment.
I didn’t turn anything into a circus. I’m simply questioning Medeus’s claims about the two Transcendings as I have information that pertains to the topic which is important for HR to evaluate. You’re the one who’s interrupting our conversation and throwing a fit. Which you can do elsewhere btw.Xearsay has already managed to turn this thread into a circus again. He's not the member being banned and all he's doing is starting an argument based on his personal feelings about someone else's ban, which is not allowed in this thread. The whole bickering segment should probably just be removed so that staff can do their job unimpeded.
What? That statement makes no sense.Someone like this is dangerous, someone with knowledge and intelligence like him can bring this entire forum into disarray.
This is not about convincing again, it's about sending evidences to prove the claim.No. You aren't. It is not Medeus' job to convince you.
This is irrelevant to the current topicYour dogmatic insistence that your opinions are facts is just as out of place here as it is on your various rejected CRTs.
You just literally told him, no one needs to convince him, and yet your claim is based on belief. Stop with this bullshit, I am aware you are heated, but you have absolutely no right to throw accusations unless you got valid evidences.Given your odd notion of what harassment is, I'm entirely convinced you actually believe this, but it's neither here nor there. You have absolutely harassed me, doxxed me, and tried to get me banned. Not unlike the Transcendings.
To all fairness, you are the one who is constantly attacking him once he asked for evidences on each individual claim.Xearsay has already managed to turn this thread into a circus again. He's not the member being banned and all he's doing is starting an argument based on his personal feelings about someone else's ban, which is not allowed in this thread. The whole bickering segment should probably just be removed so that staff can do their job unimpeded.
As one who studied philosophy and psychology, those statements very much make sense. Socrates in history used things like this to triumph in every debate he was in, causing little albeit chaos in Athena's democracy, and later he is executed. Using one emotion to take advantage of them is a very simple trick, and Emotional Quality does exist, there is a lot of tests available if you want to take them in a psychological institution.What? That statement makes no sense.
Emotional tests are notoriously bad at being reproducible and more importantly nothing you said here justifies your previous statement that knowing what emotional intelligence is makes a person dangerous enough to destroy a forum.As one who studied philosophy and psychology, those statements very much make sense. Socrates in history used things like this to triumph in every debate he was in, causing little albeit chaos in Athena's democracy, and later he is executed. Using one emotion to take advantage of them is a very simple trick, and Emotional Quality does exist, there is a lot of tests available if you want to take them in a psychological institution
Why are you involving yourself in this in the first place? This isn't an open arena to argue ones personal opinions about any random persons ban.This is irrelevant to the current topic
This part is news to me actually. I was in the private group amongst the staff alongside @Mr._Bambu @AKM sama @Firestorm808 and @Antvasima and the focus was talking about Transcending and Beyond_Transcending. I know Xearsay was brought up as someone who was an annoyance, but I never heard about him being part of the conspiracy until now. Same with the harassment/doxxing on quora. But if those are true, then that sounds like a good reason to have Xearsay banned too. But I have not seen that and would prefer to see those parts for myself preferably in the private DM.Frankly, the only reason Xearsay is here doggedly defending them is because he's been in on their antics, he was part of the vote manipulation but avoided a ban somehow, and he's also been harassing me for years including doxxing me on Reddit and attempting to get me banned here multiple times as well which failed.
He's just part of the same group of toxic debaters, and wants his friends unbanned so they can keep causing trouble here. I don't think he should be indulged on this thread any further.
No? Where did you hear that Emotional Test are bad at being reproducible? Stop spreading this misinformation, please.Emotional tests are notoriously bad at being reproducible and more importantly nothing you said here justifies your previous statement that knowing what emotional intelligence is makes a person dangerous enough to destroy a forum.
Very neat explanation, what the **** kind of relevance does it present to the RVR?As one who studied philosophy and psychology, those statements very much make sense. Socrates in history used things like this to triumph in every debate he was in, causing little albeit chaos in Athena's democracy, and later he is executed. Using one emotion to take advantage of them is a very simple trick, and Emotional Quality does exist, there is a lot of tests available if you want to take them in a psychological institution.
Okay, but this is my point. That isn't your job. This isn't an open arena for arguing. If you aren't apart of the situation, stay out of it so that this doesn't become a giant mess.I am not taking a position against you, but rather pointing out
@Qawsedf234 asked me, so i answer.Very neat explanation, what the **** kind of relevance does it present to the RVR?
As Deagon said, if you're not a staff, an accused party or the accuser party, and you DON'T have information that's vital to the case, keep it to yourself. This isn't open season.
Neither was yours, and yet you attacked him and involved more irrelevant topics and goes deeper and accused him?Okay, but this is my point. That isn't your job. This isn't an open arena for arguing. If you aren't apart of the situation, stay out of it so that this doesn't become a giant mess.
The majority og emotional tests are self-reported which is heavily prone to bias and even when performed by a psychologist it's incredibly inconsistent. When the US DOJ audited their psychology reports only 40% were found to be useable in some degree. With the rest either being wrong or pseudo-science.Where did you hear that Emotional Test are bad at being reproducible?
If you can be so tilted from a person debating about fictional characters it's better to just cool off than just continously jump into the fire.Taking advantages of other emotionally can be devastating,
I am literally a part of the situation at hand. That's the difference. You are not a mod, please stop taking up space in this thread trying to act as a mediator for situations you aren't involved in.Neither was yours
That is not at all what the issue was. He had greatly misrepresented the situation at hand, accused people of lying, and tried to goad Medeus into an argument with him about his staff decision because his friends got banned, which is equally inappropriate.Again, what was actually bad for asking shreds of evidence?
You leveled accusations against a member in this discussion, which escalated and continued even after they presented valid points. Rather than engaging with their arguments, you resorted to making unfounded accusations. Therefore, I fail to discern any notable distinction between me and youI am literally a part of the situation at hand. That's the difference. You are not a mod, please stop taking up space in this thread trying to act as a mediator for situations you aren't involved in.
To be candid, he did not distort any information. He merely requested evidence, and you responded with aggression by attacking, antagonizing, and accusing him. This raises some suspicion regarding the credibility of the claims, as the absence of evidence suggests they may be unsubstantiated.That is not at all what the issue was. He had greatly misrepresented the situation at hand, accused people of lying, and tried to goad Medeus into an argument with him about his staff decision because his friends got banned, which is equally inappropriate.
Then let the staff handle it. That's it. I'm not engaging with you on this anymore, and preferably your comments here should be removed since they're just detracting from the matter at hand.You accused someone in this thread and this was out of control.
Why would FRAing in the threads be any type of evidence of him being a part of harassment?
This is fairly nowhere doxxing to the extent that it needs to be counted as one, more like being a creepy or annoying with it.I still haven't heard about the doxxing parts aside from something about "Being 30" which I don't think that's bad enough compared to giving real names, faces or locations.
Any evidences of this?But there were a lot of derogatory comments on places like Reddit and some harassment on places like SpaceBattles. So Xearsay being part of the group that has been harassing Deagon for years isn't wrong.