Ruby's "Intangibility"

[Dziga]

And that doesn't prove nothing about intangibility. She has to break the wind ow to pass through it.

 

[Jinx666]

Here is Ruby becoming a well dispersed cloud of moving rose petals while climbing the clock tower

Um okay, but thats

A)Could just be her petal trail, she was spoutting petals even in her human form

B) She never actually had an attack going through her. Nice assumption

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And that doesn't prove nothing about intangibility. She has to break the wind ow to pass through it.

Yeah, so would someone with elemental intangibility as elemental intangibility doesnt give you the ability to pass through solid objects, only the ability to disperse into something else.

 

[Nico-v11]

Can we all just agree that EVERYONE with Elemental Intagibility has Shapeshifting? Unless for very specific cases that's the general rule of thumb since by dispersing attacks with your body requires one to shift one's shape.

So Ruby would have both as well as transmutation since she's changing from human to rose petals.

 

[DraycoMakargo]

Here is Ruby becoming a well dispersed cloud of moving rose petals while climbing the clock tower

I fail to see how that made her intagible. It was her racing up the clocktower and she came out in her normal form. Rose petals would have to be trveling much faster than Ruby to break through glass. From what I can tell, she shifted back in the last second and came out with the momentum to strike back at the grimm.

 

[Jinx666]

@Jinx Ruby showing new aspects of her semblance as well as using it constantly is enough proof to say that she's massively improved with her semblance even if not stated. It's implied.
Not everything needs to be outright said or spoon fed to the audience.

Again Ruby broke apart into 3 pieces. What would you call that? Definitely not duplication. Sure give her both shapeshifting and transmutation but those two don't deny that she also has intangibility.

Intangibility is when attacks are avoided by becoming tiny pieces of something like sand for example. Or just water/fire. Ruby just has kinda shitty intangibility where she breaks into 3 pieces.

Improved. Not mastered. Theres a difference. And nothing in the first place suggested she had intangibility

Transformation. Or even body control. Saying something doesnt disprove they ahve it is also extremely flawed logic. The actual opposite of what you do. Otherwise Shrek has reality warping because hes never shown not to.

No, Splitting yourself =/= Elemental intangibility. I dont know how many times i gotta say this.

Seriously, from the same mind who says RWBY characters turn their aura on and off constantly in battle

 

[DMB_1]

So Ruby would have both as well as transmutation since she's changing from human to rose petals.

I believe that Transmutation only applies if you transform something other than yourself.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Um okay, but thats

A)Could just be her petal trail, she was spoutting petals even in her human form

B) She never actually had an attack going through her. Nice assumption

If it were her peral trail it wouldnt be moving in a single direction, it would just be going all ive rhe place like her trail does

Doesnt matter, her ability to disperse into rose petals still fits the definition of elemental intanblgibility

 

[The_Everlasting]

"Seriously, from the same mind who says RWBY characters turn their aura on and off constantly in battle"

Can we not resort to ad hominem? Please?

Regardless Ruby is blatantly shown turning into rose petals there.

 

[Dziga]

And? It still doesn't prove your point. We can clearly see that there's still a main "body" of petals that, as shown before, is tangible. Also Roses are not intangible. At best I can see that considered as Limited Elemental Intangibility.

 

[Jinx666]

Um okay, but thats

A)Could just be her petal trail, she was spoutting petals even in her human form

B) She never actually had an attack going through her. Nice assumption

If it were her peral trail it wouldnt be moving in a single direction, it would just be going all ive rhe place like her trail does
Doesnt matter, her ability to disperse into rose petals still fits the definition of elemental intanblgibility

Well, she was most likely climbing up a stair case, the trail easily follows her path there. actually. She was even shown to have petals spouting from her WHILE IN HER HUMAN FORM also. "Spread petals" means intangibility, yeah okay

No, to have EI, you have to show examples that you have it? Especially when she got hurt while she was in this form by Mercury. And nothing proving she mastered it to that point. Dispersing into something =/= Intangibility. You actually have to have an attack go through you to be considered EI

 

[Jinx666]

"Seriously, from the same mind who says RWBY characters turn their aura on and off constantly in battle"
Can we not resort to ad hominem? Please?

Regardless Ruby is blatantly shown turning into rose petals there.

Literally not the point. And i somewhat expected either you or weekly to call out the irrelevant

Okay, but has she blatantly shown actual Elemental intangibility? Turning into a bunch of things isnt elemental intangibility

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dzjga Again, that is post timeskip you're referring to

Sand isn't intangible too so I guess we should downgrade crocodile, ice isnt intangible so aoukiji should be downgraded, and a bunch of one piece Logia users with elemental intangibility via non intangiblw elements. The element itself does not need to be intangible to qualify for elemental intangibility.

 

[The_Everlasting]

"Literally not the point. And i somewhat expected either you or weekly to call out the irrelevant"

If it's irrelevant why even say it to begin with?

"Turning into a bunch of things isnt elemental intangibility"

If you don't have a raw body it exactly is that.

 

[Dziga]

> Comparing Logia intangibility with Ruby's semblance.

This is a joke right?

 

[The_Everlasting]

> Comparing Logia intangibility with Ruby's semblance.
This is a joke right?

This is a totally helpful, informative and relevant comment.

 

[DraycoMakargo]

Rose petals are nothing like wind, fire, or water. How is this elemental intagibility? Rose petals are pretty much solid.

Ruby is shown to always create roses, even in her human form. When her semblance is activated she becomes a cloud of Roses. Not to mention, wouldn't just being the roses themselves mean that she's splitting herself apart? A trail of roses sounds painful if that's supposed to be part of her body. Which pretty much means that her body creates roses.

 

[Jinx666]

"Literally not the point. And i somewhat expected either you or weekly to call out the irrelevant"
If it's irrelevant why even say it to begin with?

"Turning into a bunch of things isnt elemental intangibility"

If you don't have a raw body it exactly is that.

Am i allowed to facepalm? That comment was irrelevant to the topic. and youre focusing on something thats irrelevant purposely?

? So you're saying anyone who can turn into a bunch of things has elemental intangibilty. Sir, you have to literally prove something can go through you to have EI. What youre doing is assuming because you would think its logical, when literally nothing shows that

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Drayco Look at one poece logia users. There are guys with elemental intangibilitt for turning into ice and sand which arent innately intangible. The element itself doesnt have to be intangible, all elemental intangibility is is turning into a different material

 

[The_Everlasting]

"Am i allowed to facepalm? That comment was irrelevant to the topic. and youre focusing on something thats irrelevant purposely?"

I'm focusing on it because you have a history of antagonizing Weekly and you're not helping yourself by, by your own admittance, pointlessly bringing it up again.

"So you're saying anyone who can turn into a bunch of things has elemental intangibilty."

You try punching a bunch of rose petals. See how that works out.

 

[Nico-v11]

> Comparing Logia intangibility with Ruby's semblance.

This is a joke right?

No because it's the same fundamental principle with just a different name

 

[Dziga]

@Drayco Look at one poece logia users. There are guys with elemental intangibilitt for turning into ice and sand which arent innately intangible. The element itself doesnt have to be intangible, all elemental intangibility is is turning into a different material

Except for the fact that this doesn't hurt them at all when in Logia form unless you use Haki or an Element that counters the Logia. You still need to prove that happens with Post-Time Skip Ruby despite the fact there's no solid evidence.

 

[Jinx666]

"Am i allowed to facepalm? That comment was irrelevant to the topic. and youre focusing on something thats irrelevant purposely?"
I'm focusing on it because you have a history of antagonizing Weekly and you're not helping yourself by, by your own admittance, pointlessly bringing it up again.

"So you're saying anyone who can turn into a bunch of things has elemental intangibilty."

You try punching a bunch of rose petals. See how that works out.

You brought it up....And that wasnt even towards Weekly XD It was towards Nico.

Mercury has, hes kicked through them and hurt Ruby. And im pretty sure Ruby's petals arent regular petals. Not to mention how theyre solid. Like literally, its been disproved, and nothing says she now has full EI just because she improved. Thats literally your argument. An assumption despite never showing.

 

[DraycoMakargo]

@Weekly I'm not familiar with One piece, but if Sandman doesn't have elemental intagibility I don't see why many other people should too.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Except for the fact that this doesn't hurt them at all when in Logia form unless you use Haki. You still need to prove that happens with Post-Time Skip Ruby despite the fact there's no solid evidence.

And literally the only time ruby was hurt using her semblance is pre timeskip before she mastered her semblance and didnt display actual elental intangibility, only a speed amp.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Jinx The mercury point is moot

Sand and ice are solid so crocodile and aoukiji dont have elemental intangibility now i guess

 

[Jinx666]

> Comparing Logia intangibility with Ruby's semblance.

This is a joke right?

No because it's the same fundamental principle with just a different name

Okay, Do you know what Logia is?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Weekly I'm not familiar with One piece, but if Sandman doesn't have elemental intagibility I don't see why many other people should too.

Message Matt about it, he should actuslly have it

 

[Dziga]

Read my reply again, slowly.

 

[Jinx666]

And again Weekly. Where in the show has she said she MASTERED it. She improved it a bit, she didnt have intangibility to begin with, why are you assuming that mastered gives her an ability shes NEVER shown to do.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Ruby can turn into Rose Petals that's fact.

We've seen Ruby turn into petals multiple times and even split herself apart while as Rose Petals. Qrow even states that Ruby's Semblance let's her burst into Rose Petals.

I agree with Nico and Weekly.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because she has shown to do it, several times, which is backed up by Qrow's description of how her semblance works

 

[Jinx666]

Ofc you do Poin, you people never disagree with them. What happened to dipping out? Bursting into petals =/= to elemental intangibility

The Mercury point isnt moot, since you've never actually proved that shes 'mastered' her semblance to the point she can go through things in her petal burst form

Why did she split herself up manually then if she could have easily just went through that boulder?

 

[Jinx666]

Because she has shown to do it, several times, which is backed up by Qrow's description of how her semblance works

Shes never shown to have Elemental intangiblity, especially not several. She literally keeps herself in a solid cluster. And again, shes been hit, with literally no proof shes 'mastered' it

 

[Jinx666]

@Jinx The mercury point is moot
Sand and ice are solid so crocodile and aoukiji dont have elemental intangibility now i guess

You do realise that rose petals are solid aswell right?

Do you even Three states of matter, first the forcefield and now this

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Jinx Elemental intangibility doesn't give you the ability to go through things like conventional intangibility does, only disperse around them, which she did.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You do realise that rose petals are solid aswell right?

Do you even Three states of matter, first the forcefield and now this

So is ice

So is sand

But crocodile and aoukiji have elemental intangibility because of it

 

[Jinx666]

@Jinx Elemental intangibility doesn't give you the ability to go through things like conventional intangibility does, only disperse around them, which she did.

Sigh, no, thats more Transformation. She split herself up manually, she didnt disperse through something. Splitting into 3 =/= dispersing into multiple rose petals, as shes kept 3 clusters. If it was true EI, she would have 'dispersed' through the boulder. And again, Mercury kicked her in the Schnoz. The point isnt moot since theres literally 0 evidence saying she mastered her semblance to the point she can go through things now. Intangibility is Intangibility.

Also this https://gyazo.com/79f37f4dd54af5338d96323d1ab1cdcd

Even though, yet again, Rose petals are also solid

 

[Jinx666]

You do realise that rose petals are solid aswell right?

Do you even Three states of matter, first the forcefield and now this

So is ice
So is sand

But crocodile and aoukiji have elemental intangibility because of it

You literally JUST said they dont have Elemental Intangibility.

And again, splitting yourself up into multiple things =/= Elemental intangibility. You're assuming she has it, when its never been shown, she never in character does it, and only proves you will literally say ANYTHING to make RWBY seem OP. Shrek has never freakin shown to not use Reality Warping, so lets give it to him after a timeskip

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It doesn't matter if it's done passively or manually, it still qualifies as elementals intangibility

It doesn't matter if rhe material is conventionally tangible or conventionally intangible, it still qualifies for elemental intangibility

Unless you want to try to argue that aoukiji and crocodile dont have elemental intangibility as ice and sand arent intangible materials, Ruby's intangibility is no different other than being manual instead of passive.