Rubber man vs Sand man round 4

[MonkeyOfLife]

4. I understand you saying he won't tag g2 but how does base luffy avoid sand tsunami?

Move faster than he can even think.

 

[Kidkinsey]

"Your stamina is unable to keep up" is that not wearing him out?

Speed is equal and the sand engulfed a forest and has some tracking. It's not as easy as u make it seem

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

"Your stamina is unable to keep up" is that not wearing him out?

Yee but he can still uses gear 2nd which will instead attack his life force

 

[RazumaHiroki]

They are the same tier that's why I'm assuming a few punches won't end this fight, if it's with Gnd jet pistol jet bazooka gg then I guess it's a stomp

1) You are forgetting the fact that both Base Luffy and G2 Luffy never stops attacking after hitting their enemy, it will never end with just few punches. The treatment he gave Blueno is a prime example, another prime example would be Luffy using Gatling gun, bazooka and rifle on Arlong in quick succession. We are assuming this Luffy is at his peak form, meaning he keep on fighting for hours.

2. I'm well aware I saw that 5th gate lee did to garra I know it can be blitzed. How's sasuke intelligence pale in comparison? Possibly with aoe attacks

2) We can even use the characters profiles. Luffy here is considered as a battle Genuis, while the two others are above average. So tell me what's better Genuis or above average?

3.Them both using sand dosent mean they fight alike.

3) Doesn't matter to Luffy. When he fights against someone who has a specific ability like one of his former enemies. He would already know that his opponent uses sand as hard as steel (just like Crocodile) and can manipulate sand at will (just like Crocodile). In other words the fact that Kid Gaara isn't as experienced as Crocodile, Luffy wouldn't have as much difficulty figuring out his weaknesses and fighting style than a veteran with years of experience.

4. I understand you saying he won't tag g2 but how does base luffy avoid sand tsunami?

4) They are fighting on New York City with multiple buildings, yes?. Luffy's mobility, maneuverability and acrobatic enables him to use the entire environment aka buildings to propel himself up into the air or acting like Spiderman or Tarzan swinging from building to building to avoid sand tsunami. It's in-character for Luffy to use the environment to his advantage to dodge such abilities or jumping good then inflating his body via Gomu Gomu no Balloon, floating in mid-air, thus the sand can't reach him

 

[Kidkinsey]

1. It'll be a problem in G2 not base, that's the only reason I bought up fatigue. So basically the blitz he did to bluneo is how u see this fight going?

2. Shippuden sasuke has genius and it has the same wording has in part 1 profile idk why he part 1 profile dosrnt have genius given him and naruto outwitted zabuza and his plan vs orochimaru

3. I hear what u saying I just disagree since their combat style is so different. Garra stands still tries to trap you croc approaches his opponents

4. And yes it's in nyc I put it there for those reasons you mentioned (if I was bias against luffy I wouldn't lol) the sand can go in the air I don't see that as much of an issue

 

[RazumaHiroki]

1. It'll be a problem in G2 not base, that's the only reason I bought up fatigue. So basically the blitz he did to bluneo is how u see this fight going?

1) Except his weakness isn't relevant and stop pushing this argument any longer when I literally explained you it doesn't matter. Again, Luffy at his peak form needs to active GEAR SECOND thrice to slow him down this is not happening and you don't have a legitimate argument why he would use gear second more than thrice.

2. Shippuden sasuke has genius and it has the same wording has in part 1 profile idk why he part 1 profile dosrnt have genius given him and naruto outwitted zabuza and his plan vs orochimaru

2) Then make a CTR. It's irrelevant because this Luffy is still more intelligent and experienced than Sasuke and Lee combined. Honestly, at this point you are really being stubborn on purpose.

3. I hear what u saying I just disagree since their combat style is so different. Garra stands still tries to trap you croc approaches his opponents

3) Irrelevant. When comparing both experience or intelligence as well as the utilization of their sand manipulation, crocodile wins in all three categories. They may have different combat style, but to Luffy, Gaara's fighting style would be more predictable and easy to counter.

4. And yes it's in nyc I put it there for those reasons you mentioned (if I was bias against luffy I wouldn't lol) the sand can go in the air I don't see that as much of an issue

4) You are stonewalling that's not any better though. The sand is still slower than Luffy's speed, mobility and maneuverability. Gaara's sand can't catch someone more mobile and faster than itself saying otherwise requires proof, and I hope it's not abother Gate Lee argument.

Just because you think something is a certain thing, and act like that something is a certain thing doesn't make that something what you are saying/describing it to be true. Luffy massively outskills Gaara, with Luffy's unpredictability and mobility this is not happening.

 

[RazumaHiroki]

• Luffy has superior intelligence
• Better mobility and maneuverability
• Can break through his sand easily (he broke through Desert La spada quite easily and Blueno & Lucci's strongest Tekkai, tougher than steel)
• Better Stamina
• Is literally faster than him in Gear second.
• Outskills Gaara in every scenario possible (Luffy will give him a treatment worse than gate lee gave him with his skill advantage here)
• Luffy has slightly superior LS he ain't trapping him.
• Bones made of rubber, so crushing him will lead to Luffy saying "I'm made of Rubber"

Do I need to list off more things or do you want to continue to reusing the same arguments "G2's weakness" and Gaara's sand tagging people who utterly blitz him and his sand?

 

[Kidkinsey]

1. It's stated 3 times?

3. What makes him more intelligent with him

4. OK my proof would be the kimmiaro fight. Kimi was able to dodge garras sand but the AOE ot sand tsunami overwhelmed him

Those are all good points I agree with most of them except I think sand tomb will be able to keep him trapped 2k below the earth

 

[Kidkinsey]

Anyway thats 3 votes for luffy right?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yee but probably stomp.

 

[Kidkinsey]

Welppppppppppp I guess a mod can close it

 

[KingTempest]

Monkey istg we can't have OP matches cause either you argue a blitz or a one shot or an ability stomp gahlee

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