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Yeah. Rose had to keep up the Facade. And for her power? That's how she was able to block the Diamonds.
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Rose Quartz Possible Upgrade
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Rose's size is smaller than Pink's default size though
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Why do you Think that Tipoima?
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Well SU is notorious for its size scaling issues cuz in Pearl's memory, we see that Pink is significantly taller than her.
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If we accept the fact that Pink is Stevonnie-sized and defective (which is pretty much confirmed by the moon base mural, being nothing like her, alone. her size doesn't help either. AND it also explains her sympathy for defects and fusions.), than it's easy to explain - Pink has to stretch in public, to look at least somewhat Diamond-sized. The size from flashback is her stretched size, not natural.Gojira1234 said:
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You're literally comparing her size depicted in in a dream sequence to her actual size where she's over 2x taller than pearl
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I still don't get how bigger=Stronger in this thread tbh.
Since she scales from the other diamonds.
And shape-shifting is a thing too.
Since she scales from the other diamonds.
And shape-shifting is a thing too.
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Shapeshifting takes effort as seen througout the series. For Pink to maintain the Rose Quartz form for so long, she must have been using a considerable amount of strength. I'm going to assume that it is for this reason, she was comparable to a Quartz during the war.
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I know that, I am just saying to Tipoima that size is pretty much irrelevant, nothing about the upgradeSir Ovens said:
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Rainbow Quartz has not been upgraded.
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Where exactly was Pink shown to be defective?
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No? Size doesnt necessarily mean she's defective.
Who says she isnt?
Who says she isnt?
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Why else is she smaller than the other diamonds? What has she done or been stated to say that puts her on comparable authority or power to the other 3. Plus the fact she was the one to betray HW, which just shows she doesnt think the same. Peridot states that amethyst is defective because shes small aswell, despite having apparent similar strength to one.
The implications...we really cant assume shes the same as the other diamonds when shes shown to be extremely different, even in authority, to the others. And of course, shes the least experienced, unless every gem pops out one day at their full maximum power. Id wait for any sort of strong feat before immediately assuming shes comparable.
The implications...we really cant assume shes the same as the other diamonds when shes shown to be extremely different, even in authority, to the others. And of course, shes the least experienced, unless every gem pops out one day at their full maximum power. Id wait for any sort of strong feat before immediately assuming shes comparable.
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Being different does not mean she shuould be automaticlally assumed to be weaker. And yes, they are at full power the moment they take form for the first time, this is blatantly stated several times by Peridot.
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So a gem is unable to improve their physical attributes? K then. I dont recall Peridot saying any of that either, only stuff about the quality of their formation and the fact they already recall their purpose. I suppose Steven is at full power aswell.
And yeah, it kinda does, when your a smaller diamond compared to the others, and are treated much less seriously, we really cant say shes comparable to the other diamonds with literally nil proving hes at their power.
And yeah, it kinda does, when your a smaller diamond compared to the others, and are treated much less seriously, we really cant say shes comparable to the other diamonds with literally nil proving hes at their power.
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Steven isnt 100% Gem, that notion doesnt apply to him
We cant say she's not comparable when nothing shows that she isnt
We cant say she's not comparable when nothing shows that she isnt
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Well...I have explained things that show she may not be as strong but ofc I get that ignored card.
But thats a bit of a flawed statement. By that logic, youre saying featless characters could be compared to top tiers simply because nothing says they arent as strong as them. Feats and statements shown when theyre comparable, not that logic.
We can only compare them if theres a concrete similarity, I suppose in this case a diamond similarity, but PD has shown to be different to the other diamonds, in both attutude, her authority, her age, her size which implies she hasnt had the same resource supply than the other diamond, which do suggest she isnt as strong. Of course this is only implications, but theres no actual statement that says she is aswell. Once again, its one of those conundrums where the proof has to be why its more likely to be this way than the other. Not actual worded proof since that doesnt exist yet.
But thats a bit of a flawed statement. By that logic, youre saying featless characters could be compared to top tiers simply because nothing says they arent as strong as them. Feats and statements shown when theyre comparable, not that logic.
We can only compare them if theres a concrete similarity, I suppose in this case a diamond similarity, but PD has shown to be different to the other diamonds, in both attutude, her authority, her age, her size which implies she hasnt had the same resource supply than the other diamond, which do suggest she isnt as strong. Of course this is only implications, but theres no actual statement that says she is aswell. Once again, its one of those conundrums where the proof has to be why its more likely to be this way than the other. Not actual worded proof since that doesnt exist yet.
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Actually, it does, she has to focus her power to maintain the form as show several times by others, and considering how much different in appearence and size the form is, it likely drains a lot of her, and even after she was poofed and became Rose as standard (which we don't even know is the case) the form is not the suited for her, it's not the form she is supposed to have (just like Amethyst was doing in that one episode), thus likely limiting her from using full power, which was likely what she wanted in the first place since she had to keep up the Facade. Also like Weekly said, we cant say she's not comparable when nothing shows that she isn't, her current statistics are fine as they are.Jinx666 said:
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Weekly is doing that hiding +kudos thing again. Im starting to a shot count.
We can say that, its been implied she isnt an ordinary diamond, and we can tell that by her size, which means shes defective, possibly. Pink Diamond if she was comparable to the other two wouldnt be looked down on either.
Seriously, she has nil diamond comparison feats. Just because shes a 'diamond'. Scale Amethsyt to Jasper with this logic. Why cant people wait until we see more of PD before instantly assuming shes comparable, cause the way things are looking, we honestly cant say shit.
We can say that, its been implied she isnt an ordinary diamond, and we can tell that by her size, which means shes defective, possibly. Pink Diamond if she was comparable to the other two wouldnt be looked down on either.
Seriously, she has nil diamond comparison feats. Just because shes a 'diamond'. Scale Amethsyt to Jasper with this logic. Why cant people wait until we see more of PD before instantly assuming shes comparable, cause the way things are looking, we honestly cant say shit.
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Well excuse me for showing support for a post when I cant make one of my own due to being at work.
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Jinx is right, the only reason why PD is being scaled to the other diamonds is cuz she is of the same class; I would agree with left her as she is now (or was, don't remember the current state), with the possibly higher.
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Jinx, you do understand that the diamonds themselves dont even have diamond level feats right? Saying pink isnt comparable due to that doesnt make sense. Neither does saying shes weaker just because yellow told her no once.
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She just have two keys, one of them as Rose and the other as Pink Diamond.Antoniofer said:
Still, I would want that @Jinx would calm down because he is getting pretty angry, and talking nonsense such as Amethyst and Jasper.
And about seeing PD feats is pretty much a thing that I dont think will happen, at least not in the current situation.
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And Weekly is right Jinx, they scale from being superior to White Light, so... thats it.
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Id also like to point out that basically every homeworld gem was genuinely shocke and in disbelief that pink had been defeated in the first place, pink is the basis for the diamonds being high 6-A in the first place.
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