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Can't really "push away" something within a field-type attack that works via aura though.
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Rimuru VS Medaka
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He can push away scar dead so I'm pretty sure it works on field type aura attacks
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Again, Cook can nullify the effects of attacks. Meaning her abilities really don't work either.
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That might work as a counter-measure if neccessary. But I don't think Scar Dead would even work on Rimuru in the first place.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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I see no wincon for Rimuru, whilst he possesses many.
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I meant wincon for Medaka.
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So ... Rimuru's stomp? That is, none of Medaka's most powerful abilities would have an effect on Rimuru.
Rimuru has many useful skills that have not been mentioned.
I would like to vote for Rimuru
Rimuru has many useful skills that have not been mentioned.
I would like to vote for Rimuru
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Bump.
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Its seems like a stomp. Futhermore, it's was now invalid because Rimuru was updated again. He has now Veldora's summoning as part of his Ultimate Skills abilities. He also an ability that could destroyed the universe if he is bloodlusted enough to cause an inconclusive at worse.
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No it isn't.GLHF22 said:
Infinite growth =/= Infinite "right now"
Only Void God Azatoth was said to be infinite so it's irrelevant for Rimuru's 6-A key.
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isn't grace over?
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Yeah, add at will
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Since bloodlusted Rimuru unleashes his passives this is a stompPaul Frank said:
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This is a stomp? Yeah, I don't think they can be added
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Seriously, any future matches involving bloodlusted Medaka should be considered spite matches since 99% of the time they'll be either a stomp in either direction or an incon.
That "time amp to infinite speed activated on first thought" really makes her matches into one where she basically speedblitzes her opponent unless they got either a passive or instantly activated instant kill aura - both which led to a stomp for Medaka's opponent. And despite what some of the pro-medaka people have been saying, Medaka deciding the match on the first thought via infinite speed amp is a "legit match", but no that is also a stomp, period. If Medaka's opponent fails to kill her on first thought, but is also unkillable for her no matter what she tries, then it'd probably an incon - or if Medaka's opponent has some method to kill her that takes a bit longer to activate, then it's again a stomp for that opponent due to Medaka having no victory condition.
So the only way for a "legit" match is probably if Medaka's opponent got some sort of instant reflection or damage return ability that would justify either side's win and would not make it a stomp or incon. But I don't think there are too many characters with such a specific ability.
With that said, if I see any other Bloodlusted Medaka (with a key that got the speed amp) that doesn't have a good justification to exist, then I'll report that match as a spite thread.
That "time amp to infinite speed activated on first thought" really makes her matches into one where she basically speedblitzes her opponent unless they got either a passive or instantly activated instant kill aura - both which led to a stomp for Medaka's opponent. And despite what some of the pro-medaka people have been saying, Medaka deciding the match on the first thought via infinite speed amp is a "legit match", but no that is also a stomp, period. If Medaka's opponent fails to kill her on first thought, but is also unkillable for her no matter what she tries, then it'd probably an incon - or if Medaka's opponent has some method to kill her that takes a bit longer to activate, then it's again a stomp for that opponent due to Medaka having no victory condition.
So the only way for a "legit" match is probably if Medaka's opponent got some sort of instant reflection or damage return ability that would justify either side's win and would not make it a stomp or incon. But I don't think there are too many characters with such a specific ability.
With that said, if I see any other Bloodlusted Medaka (with a key that got the speed amp) that doesn't have a good justification to exist, then I'll report that match as a spite thread.
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So after all this, the match doesn't even get added because it's a stomp due to Rimuru having an option to win against Medaka's infinite speed amp, which would also result in a stomp?
Never do bloodlusted Medaka matches again. Either add this match or report every bloodlusted Medaka thread as spite. Complete waste of time.
Never do bloodlusted Medaka matches again. Either add this match or report every bloodlusted Medaka thread as spite. Complete waste of time.
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This match is a stomp because bloodlusted Rimuru passively wins
Any passive win matches are stomps
Any passive win matches are stomps
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Yes, but considering that's one of the the few ways to even deal with that absurd time amp that activates on first thought, it doesn't leave many alternatives in terms of wincons for Medaka's opponents, does it?
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It does though.
Someone like Yogiri can kill her without a passive for instance
Being able to not lose when she erases her time is also an option, just have resistances
Someone like Yogiri can kill her without a passive for instance
Being able to not lose when she erases her time is also an option, just have resistances
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That just makes it all the more hilarious that the Medaka fans tried to claim that Bloodlust Medaka winning via speed amp is a "legit win that can be added". Legit win for medaka if she wins, but if someone is able to counter it, it's a stomp. Very conventient, I must say.
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You cant resist the speed amp no.
You can just resist the stuff she can do during the speed amp
Or have infinite speed yourself
You can just resist the stuff she can do during the speed amp
Or have infinite speed yourself
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If you have infinite speed, you'd just blitz before she uses it, no?
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For Mindhax, a characters can be resist since it used on them. "lolinfinitespeedampGG" since it is not used on the opponents then it can't can't be resisted by this opponents.
Luke isnt precisely put against characters that resist his mindhax. And of course, if you resist anything Medaka throws at you, you win, too.
Point was that both insta-win. So calling just one of them unfair is a bit of strange to me.
Luke isnt precisely put against characters that resist his mindhax. And of course, if you resist anything Medaka throws at you, you win, too.
Point was that both insta-win. So calling just one of them unfair is a bit of strange to me.
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FtfyInfiniteSped said:
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But she can use every single one of abilities in a single moment and if she fails, that'd be grounds for saying "Medaka has no victory condition, so even if she loses now, it'd be a stomp against her", or would perhaps become an incon if her opponent can't kill her in her infinite speed state. So really the only windows of opportunity to prevent her from using it is via passives or by killing her on first thought, both of which would once again be considered stomps.
If the enemy got infinite speed, then it'd either reverse the situation in a speed unequalized match due to Medaka being unable to activate the speed amp since the opponent gets infinite amount of moves before Medaka can use a single thought (i.e. stomp), or otherwise make Medaka's speed amp powerless due to being a speed equalized match which already rises her speed to that level. That's really the only way to have a non-stomp match alsongside some very unlikely match-up against someone with instantanous auto-reflection/damage-return passives.
Aside from such special cases it's pretty much always a spite thread in almost any other case.
If the enemy got infinite speed, then it'd either reverse the situation in a speed unequalized match due to Medaka being unable to activate the speed amp since the opponent gets infinite amount of moves before Medaka can use a single thought (i.e. stomp), or otherwise make Medaka's speed amp powerless due to being a speed equalized match which already rises her speed to that level. That's really the only way to have a non-stomp match alsongside some very unlikely match-up against someone with instantanous auto-reflection/damage-return passives.
Aside from such special cases it's pretty much always a spite thread in almost any other case.
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