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Rimuru vs Arceus: Redux
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Arceus resists temporal abilities that are able to affect beings without concepts of time and space.GLHF22 said:
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YesDMB 1 said:
Arceus Ban-hammer'd giratina's "physical" form, and he made his own dimension where he is omni iirc
I guess he have the range for immaginary clone but i reaally want to know where is he
EDIT: I want to know*
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Still won't allow him to fully affect something far beyond his shown rangeSzmiit said:
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Also Arceus denies resistances with the omnipotent ability.
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It's a passive ability, it's not something you can see, it's just present.
Unless Rimuru can copy these kinds of abilities, of course.
Unless Rimuru can copy these kinds of abilities, of course.
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I'm pretty sure Rimuru can, but it depends on the extent of it. From all the guy defending Rimuru here, I do not see why Rimuru shouldn't be 2-A if it wasn't for the fact that his verse has less universes than the Pokemon verse, which Arceus created.NeoZex6399 said:
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To be 2-A you need to destroy an infinite amount of universesDragopentling said:
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Rimuru isn't 2-A for the same reasons Arceus and other 2-B aren't.
Its multiverse is not infinite (apparently).
Its multiverse is not infinite (apparently).
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I forgot how many universes Arceus's Poke verse consists of, but it's more than Rimuru's, for sure.NeoZex6399 said:
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countless x millions
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well now it depends on the potency of Rimuru's abilities, because I keep hearing about these broken abilities being meaningless or have no effect, because "blank" can't "blank", and then so on and so forth. This is what I REALLY get headaches about during matchups between Tier 1-2 characters, because all the shenanigans with resistances, counters, etc. can get skewed up during the discussions about it, or there's just an indecision or unanimous decision because someone finally agrees or disagrees that "this" can or cannot do "that".NeoZex6399 said:
Sorry, just blowing off a bit of steam at the end there.
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Wouldn't Arceus just create a concept that weakens Rimuru?
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Rimuru can destroy concepts
- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3; Turn Null can create and destroy everything. Using his Turn Null Veldanava create the world and the spirits, whose birth caused the existence of their respective elements. For example, time never existed until the Spirit of Time was born. In addition in the future a new spirit will be born that destroys everything including the other spirits)
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Can't Arceus just nuke Rimuru alongside the entire multiverse, since he's million of times stronger, which would need high godly to come back from ?
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I just remembered. Arceus's profile has its regen only Low-Mid....dat hell? I then take a look at the page Regenerationn and it feels like partially covering Resurrection, tbh. Now I'm just lost. It's another one of those "yes he can, no he can't" debates again, isn't it?
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Rimuru Tempest got Acausality so he is independent of the Multiverse existence. Also, Rimuru's real body resides in his own imaginary world, not the multiverse.
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What type is the acausality? I thought it was just type 1
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Rimuru can just erase Arceus with Void Manipulation (Can summon a void that erases the existence of whatever it touches).
Arceus has no resistance to it.
Arceus has no resistance to it.
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When, the point was about a multiverse bust which would no kill Rimuru especially when it regen is not dependent on the multiverse
Except Rimuru probably can't touch the real Arceus, either. The forms you see of him are physical avatars while the real one is more likely formless.
Except Rimuru probably can't touch the real Arceus, either. The forms you see of him are physical avatars while the real one is more likely formless.
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Also, Rimuru's attacks would have to go through countless dimensions to just reach the location of the real Arceus.
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Couldn't Arceus just destroy that imaginary world too ?Nedge1000 said:
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Except Rimuru probably can't touch the real Arceus, either. The forms you see of him are physical avatars while the real one is more likely formless.Dragopentling said:
Rimuru Tempest easily can interact with beings with Abstract Existence from his Non-Physical Interaction and Rimuru is also an abstract beings himself. Arceus no longer have Type 9 Immortality as you descripted anyway and isn't even asbtract. Type 9 Immortality was removed here:https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1900154.
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The true form of Arceus is omnipresent, it exists throughout all space and time, rather, all space and time is part of Arceus.
Palkia can also affect the dream world that exists outside of reality.
Palkia can also affect the dream world that exists outside of reality.
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Rimuru Tempest also got Information Analysis and Precognition to go serious with all his skills that Arceus doesn't resist like Void Manipulation. It would a win for Rimuru Tempest so Rimuru FRA.
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Rimuru Tempest also got Information Analysis and Precognition to go serious with all his skills that Arceus doesn't resist like Void Manipulation. It would a win for Rimuru Tempest so Rimuru FRA.
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Rimuru Tempest also got Information Analysis and Precognition so he will go serious with all his skills that Arceus doesn't resist like Void Manipulation. It would a win for Rimuru Tempest so Rimuru FRA.
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No, Rimuru doesn't have enought range to affect even a tiny fraction of true Arceus, so he can't erase him
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He does have that anymore. He lost his Type 9 Immortality as it was listed and I have posted about above. So, it is not a proper argument. Again, type 9 Immortality was removed here:https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1900154.Overlord775 said:
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Arceus being acausal and omnipresent through time completely nulls precognition. And depending on how the Information Analysis works, it may be blocked by Arceus' insane mental defenses. In addition, Arceus also has precognition, and Rimuru attempting Void Manipulation would, as a result, be met with a Power Nullification.
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