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Revision of Nagakabouros's Tier

I'm pretty sure it's prohibited to ask writers to upgrade character ratings. Weekly did this once before and was told not to do this again.
It's prohibited to ask questions in an obnoxious manner like what happened to DMC. Not like WB's Naga comment I brought we are quoting from Reddit.


WB - WaarghBobo
 
It is not comflating the 2. They are both canon and both refer to the exact same place , i.e. the universe. This is done for a lot of other verses here, I dont see the issue at all.

"Apart from evidence there is no evidence" gotta love this argument.
 
Weekly was found asking SCP creators for some characters with higher ratings, which admins frowned on.

Again, the only one making that link is you, Rocker. And no one else has shown that existing in multiple realities somehow equates to 2-C.
 
Weekly asking for higher ratings is not the same as asking about a characters ability. And has nothing to do with asking for clarification.

She does not exist in multiple timelinese she embodies multiple timeline which is 2-C, I dont get what you mean but no one else has shown it. That i how the wiki classes the 2-C rating.

2-C: Characters who can destroy and/or create up to 1000 universal space-time continuums.

She is literally multiple space-time continuums.
 
She has not been stated to embody multiple timelines, that is your extrapolation, aka headcanon. Maybe when you can understand this, that assuming things as facts can be tricky for ratings, you might understand why Assalt prefers Low 2-C.
 
Let me make this clear:

2-C = multiple space-time continuums, this could mean multiple universes or multiple timelines existing in the same universe since another timeline by definition is another space-time continuum. It can also mean multiple dimensions in the same universe since typically by definition another dimension is another space-time cotinuum.

The LoL main canon = multiple to countless timelines and in each of the those timelines there are multiple dimensions or realities.

Nagakabouros = LoL main canon universe = 2-C to 2-B

Nagakabouros = 2-C to 2-B.

She does not have to be stated to embody multiple timelines when what she is literally a universe made up of multiple timelines.
 
RegisNex1232 said:
She has not been stated to embody multiple timelines, that is your extrapolation, aka headcanon. Maybe when you can understand this, that assuming things as facts can be tricky for ratings, you might understand why Assalt prefers Low 2-C.
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This is literally what Assalt stated in the start of the thread that he seemed to have forgotten for some reason:

"

So basically the argument for Naga is this:

If Naga exists in multiple universes and is the universe itself, then Naga is 2-C.

So we need to prove Naga exists in multiple universes and is the universe. The former is easy: Aurelion Sol is bound to one reality and Naga is not, as directly stated. The latter is a bit harder but can be deduced.

"

Now we have determined that latter by the statemet made by Waagh:

https://www.reddit.com/user/WAAAARGHbobo

and all the other statements found by weekly.
 
To make it more simple, the universe Nagakabouros embodies is larger than our own universe, i.e. the one used for Low 2-C. Our own universe does not have multiple realities.

To put this in quotes:

It's unlikely he could defeat Nagakabouros, he would need to end the universe [that has multiple realities].
 
She is Low 2-C with 2-C range, she exists as one universe and she's able to influence multiple universes simultaneously
 
If you destroy a radio tower with multi-kilometer range, you don't need to destroy multiple kilometers. Destroying her only requires Low 2-C power.
 
sigh* alright I give up. I have basically repeated myself for like 30 comments or so and it seems people are not getting me, Low 2-C is fine.
 
It has no influence on rating; I'm just clarifying that WB did not say ending the universe destroys Nagakabouros, just that it can defeat her. In the same way a galaxy destroyer doesn't need to destroy universes (which you need to to destroy Entities) for him to just defeat the Warrior Entity from Worm.

A galaxy buster will certainly defeat an Entity (who is Star level), but still be unable to kill it. I'm just answering that.
 
The whole "A universe with multiple timelines!!!!?!" is bs. It has multiple branches. Each timeline is its own universe (This is how it works, Rocker) and has no connection to the original anymore. Destroy and defeat her requires BASELINE low 2-C at best if you consider the statements
 
Not 'at best' though, it's 'at least'.

Furthermore, we are not going to rule out the likelihood that sometime in the next decade a few letters can change in the below statement relatively easily.

It's unlikely he could defeat Nagakabouros, he would need to end the universe

to

It's unlikely he could defeat Nagakabouros, he would need to end the multiverse

A few careless letters leapfrog entire tiers (even though he's talking about the same exclusively prime canon). LoL barely began telling its story and a lot of it can be just a case of Rioters not having gotten to brandish their vocabulary yet. I think we can look at how strong Dungeon & Fighter is going (the same game getting its ludicrous PVs animated by the same studio who animates LoL's) 15 years after its release to understand LoL's lifespan (which in turn is far less than our own). 99.99% of verses have no hope of reaching infinite multiversal tier before their author dies; LoL is not one of those. So not at best; at least for now.
 
I mean "a couple letters" isn't really an argument.

"Theraptist" and "the rapist" are extremely different in meaning despite being one character apart. Universe and multiverse are closer, but their difference is still significant and we have to abide by what we currently have.

However, considering Marvel has paired with LoL, it's only matter of time before we get a cosmic comic and probably an upgrade. That said, until that happens, Naga's best showings are Low 2-C with 2-C range.
 
Eh, therapist and rapist is not really a good analogy like bicycle and tricycle (it should be a prefix analogy), but my point is that that it's not at best/upper limit, that it was the lower limit. Like, starting last year Nagakabouros can no longer drop below low multiversal level due to WB's explicit comment. So Naga's at least low multiversal currently and can only go up from there, not down.

Naga's power curve is >= Low 2-C, not =< Low 2-C. In that curve we are currently in the = stage.
 
Arguing for potential hypotheticals is utterly pointless, and can be dropped until we actually get something new.

That being said, then the new rating would be Low 2-C (linking the above Riot answer) given it's not specified how many timelines or universes Naga encompasses.

Regarding the powers listed below, are there any that should be removed or added and why?:

Kudos if you agree, and quote for powers or inaccuracy.
 
You're not even discussing the profile but what it might be in the future, which is irrelevant here. Fixing the profile is more important right now.
 
What the hell? I'm talking about Nagakabouros' current profile. Remember it's you people who proposed that Nagakabouros' profile should be at most Low 2-C and could be lower.

At most
Should be used to denote the higher cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.

Nagakabouros

Powers and Stats
Tier: At most Low 2-C

Name: Nagakabouros, The Mother Serpent, The Great Kraken, The Bearded Lady, The Unending Monster that Drives the Sea and Sky, The Mother Below

If that's not the case then shut the **** up and my point was valid to point it out.

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Dude, I went from At least to just Low 2-C. Try not to confuse me with Schro who said that and also please read the point I'm making, where quibbling about the settled Tier is unnecessary when we have yet to check or verify the rest of the profile, since it has a lot of stats with little justifications.
 
I'm not confusing you. I responded to you saying my reply to Schro is 'utterly pointless'. Such kind of words makes the person speaking angry, so try to avoid that.

By the way going from At least to just is not necessary; you can say At least Low 2-C possibly 2-C and it would be fine.
 
It is, when you are arguing about potential changes in Riot narratives regarding Naga, when we are discussing fixing the profile with current info and justifications. Going off on tangents is of no help.

And when Assalt and Kep can't see support for any Possibly ratings, then no, we have no need to put in what would be a guess.
 
At most is fine, even though we are not using that, since that is all Naga has shown to be capable of. When higher stuff is shown then you can argue for At Least or more, but for now Naga is Low 2-C.
 
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