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I didn't add the time travel feats linked in the OP.https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Eficiente/ReverseSandbox
I have this so far, it doesn't have the time travel feats and some of his abilities. Anyone is free to continue from there.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Eficiente/ReverseSandbox
I have this so far, it doesn't have the time travel feats and some of his abilities. Anyone is free to continue from there.
@Zensum @C2_of_Omegon @Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @LuciferDC099 @Newendigo @Ehnkr2beboh @Deagonx @Elizio33 @LordTracer @The_Impress @Planck69 @Confluctor @MarvelFanatic119 @Kerfuffles2 @Stefano4444I would still appreciate if others are willing to help Eficiente improve on his draft please.
If you show proof that they scale when not moving then that would be the case, but it isn't automatically.Its this technically Post-Crisis Reverse Flash? If that so why he is only Athlete level when not moving when Barry Allen its Building level? Or at least Wall level?
I mean, the Negative Speed Force work in similar ways to the Speed Force and he its consistently show to be comparable to Flash.If you show proof that they scale when not moving then that would be the case, but it isn't automatically.
I mean, Thawne took hits from Batman while still.If the Speed Force powers Flash even when he's not moving then sure, otherwise it's their own strength, which Barry's so happens to be a bit superhuman due to having a longer history of feats.
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This needed to be made into a profile, I didn't add his time travel feats shown in this thread as there aren't listed properly, same with other abilities I don't remember, and you also found mistakes in the sandbox that I didn't.
Well some suggestionsWould any of you be willing to help out with input to Eficiente please?
Should probably just readkilled by Thomas Wayne from the Flashpoint timeline [whose comparable to Batman]
They should also have links to showcase the lower showings or a source highlight to tell you what comic it comes fromkilled by Flashpoint Batman
This should do, otherwise let it be "up to" that with super speed.His lifting strength needs a justification.
Fixed.His striking strength is only Large Planet level for some reason
I can't help with that aside from pointing this out.HIs intelligence rating for both PF and PC needs like... an actual justification as well.
Are we gonna ignore the fact Eobard Thawne created the Negative Speed Force and his the one who generates it with every step he makes plus it consumes the speed force like a cancer from all worlds,eras and dimensions?
And Eobard called it Extra dimensional.
I believe I went over part of that before, please see it and recomment what you want to imply.
Atleast can't it grant a possibly Low 1C due to it.I remember you stating its not as powerful or destructive as positive Speed Force.
The NSF should be 2-A in PC and Low 1-C in N52, scaling Thawne to it is another issueAtleast can't it grant a possibly Low 1C due to it.
Negative speed force doesn't exist in new 52 actually just post crisis and rebirth.The NSF should be 2-A in PC and Low 1-C in N52, scaling Thawne to it is another issue
So you're ignoring it then. No problem.I already went over this in this thread so I'm just gonna dismiss that.
Athletic Human is fine with that featThis should do, otherwise let it be "up to" that with super speed.
He did but not in a way that scales. Thawne needed too die to Barry in the past and thus Wally was incapable of killing him no matter what. Which is why he went all out with the White Dwarf IMP.Thawne literally survived the very IMP that got 4-B
Funny how you’re assuming that Wally was unable to change the past when an issue later Cobalt Blue killed Barry and changed the past. Heck Wally himself didn’t want to tell Barry about his death in COIE as to not change history. So that was really just Wally giving himself a reason to not hold back against Thawne lol. Also even if the timeline were magically protecting Thawne, he’d still need to have 4-B durability in that instance to tank the RMP.He did but not in a way that scales. Thawne needed too die to Barry in the past and thus Wally was incapable of killing him no matter what. Which is why he went all out with the White Dwarf IMP.
No he wouldn't. If he wasn't protected he would've died no matter what Wally did. So durability is irrelevant.he’d still need to have 4-B durability in that instance to tank the RMP.
What? Let me rephrase that. He had 4-B durability in that moment, it doesn’t matter if you argue it was because of some outside source or not. He had 4-B durability or he wouldn’t have survived, let alone tanked it. Like even with people who have fatehax they don’t just tank stuff without being that level of durability in that moment.No he wouldn't. If he wasn't protected he would've died no matter what Wally did. So durability is irrelevant.
My guy he was quite literally one shot.let alone tanked it.
My comment probably wasn't written correctly. The point is this: No matter what Wally did, no matter what he hit him with, Zoom could not be killed by him. Its not because Wally wouldn't kill him, its because he couldn't kill him.Like if Wally held back, RF could have killed Wally instead.
But its not hax, its outside circumstance that allows them to preform to that level.Like even with people who have fatehax they don’t just tank stuff without being that level of durability in that moment.
I thought it's not what happened. Wally specifically went non lethal on himHe did but not in a way that scales. Thawne needed too die to Barry in the past and thus Wally was incapable of killing him no matter what. Which is why he went all out with the White Dwarf IMP.
He word for word says that he cannot kill Zoom because Barry must do it, which is why he can hit him with an IMP.I thought it's not what happened.