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Return of the most Skilled Thread

You still need a list to present it..so make it with scans and all that and then post it here so people can look over.
 
It is hinted that his martial prowess is comparable to his magic ability in importance. He's fought thousands of trained Gods and Divine/Heavenly Warriors that are millions of years old. He even fought on par with a clone of himself, which was a Six-Eared Macaque. Its stated they have precognition, and without even moving knew every event within thousands of miles of themselves instantly.

He taught his Monkey Army how to proficient with all kinds of weapons. His proficiency with his staff impresses Gods and Demons throughout the story.

this is quoted from his intelligence section:

Outside of his pure Martial Arts and Fighting capabilities Sun Wukong has shown cased his capabilities of being a capable doctor that can treat sick people and those who are injured. He has stated himself that he is well versed in the innerworkings of Heaven and Earth, and his pure comprehensive ability allowed him to not only learn the Daoist Way of Immortality before his peers within a matter of years, but also surpassing Daoist Immortals who are thousands if not more years old. On top of this after switching to Buddhism he ended up mastering The Great Way by the end of his journey which is considered even more complex and difficult to learn. When it comes to his Combat Ability & Magic in general, he is more proficient at flying then any of the other Gods with ability to transform into various things outdoing theirs as well. He is capable of tricking and outsmarting Immortals, Demons and Gods who have lived for millions of years both outside and in the midst of combat. He knows practically every method of Martial Arts and can utilize all sorts of weapons no matter how large or heavy.

All of this are without any of his supernatural abilities.
 
Most of that word salad is just proficiency with different powers. Not combat skill.

Strip that away and all you have is him teaching his army, fighting a comparable clone that had precognition and extrasensory perception.


Yeah, he trained his monkeys to somehow fight on par with the armies of heaven, armies millions of years old could be stalemated by monkeys that barely set foot on the earth for a thousand years. Which is pretty impressive to say the least when heaven outnumbered them by a massive margin. It's equivalent to say, stalemating the timelords with an army of sontarans.

Stalemated an opponent that wielded powers equivalent to his on top of knowledge of precognition. This fight could've gone to the six eared macaque's favour yet Wukong matched him despite being at a disadvantage.

Please don't call everything 'different powers' and summarize the entire thing into 2 miniscule sentences if you're not able to differentiate which is irrelevant and which is relevant. You're basically putting it on the back burner without checking.
 
What feats do the gods have because millions of years tell us experience at best. Who did they fight, what could those guys do etc etc. Without expanding on this, Sun and his monkeys only end up with proficiency with all weapons which, while nothing to sneeze at, isn’t all that impressive compared to the rest of the listed characters so far who master and learn martial arts just by seeing it once/seeing one move/not even seeing it at all, mastered every martial art in their world, see dozens to thousands to infinite steps ahead, can overcome enormous hax and stat advantages through pure skill, and constantly get more skilled to the point of skill stomping their previous level of skill (which tends to include stuff akin to what I mentioned prior) several times over the course of their story all while encountering the same stuff Sun has.

Tldr; Planck is correct in his assessment of what you listed so far.
 
What feats do the gods have because millions of years tell us experience at best. Who did they fight, what could those guys do etc etc. Without expanding on this, Sun and his monkeys only end up with proficiency with all weapons which, while nothing to sneeze at, isn’t all that impressive compared to the rest of the listed characters so far who master and learn martial arts just by seeing it once/seeing one move/not even seeing it at all, mastered every martial art in their world, see dozens to thousands to infinite steps ahead, can overcome enormous hax and stat advantages through pure skill, and constantly get more skilled to the point of skill stomping their previous level of skill (which tends to include stuff akin to what I mentioned prior) several times over the course of their story all while encountering the same stuff Sun has.

Tldr; Planck is correct in his assessment of what you listed so far.
I'll expand upon the gods at a later time and the infinite steps thing you mentioned can't be topped by Wukong. He'll be mostly at the lower end of the list. So give me some time to expand what gods he fought and what the gods do.
 
Yeah, he trained his monkeys to somehow fight on par with the armies of heaven, armies millions of years old could be stalemated by monkeys that barely set foot on the earth for a thousand years. Which is pretty impressive to say the least when heaven outnumbered them by a massive margin. It's equivalent to say, stalemating the timelords with an army of sontarans.

Stalemated an opponent that wielded powers equivalent to his on top of knowledge of precognition. This fight could've gone to the six eared macaque's favour yet Wukong matched him despite being at a disadvantage.

Please don't call everything 'different powers' and summarize the entire thing into 2 miniscule sentences if you're not able to differentiate which is irrelevant and which is relevant. You're basically putting it on the back burner without checking.
I did check. All of that isn't combat skill, it's ski with different powers. Everyone on this list would have a word salad 3 times as long if we did things the same way you did. But anyway;

That first paragraph is just Wulong having good training and leadership skills. I suppose he should have something if he can train them in the first place but considering that age is not skill then I dunno why this would be impressive.

The second one is both better and worse because all we know is that Wukong can beat his level of skill even if topped with Precognition and Extrasensory Perception. Which says nothing about his absolute level.
 
 
 
Mash outmuscles
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Sonic the hedgehog (archie pre-gen)
GeniusHis years of combat experience has made him very skilled and formidable despite his relatively young age, with nearly a decade of combat experience fighting a large variety of opponents in a short timeframe. His skill not only allows him to fight against and evade the attacks of multiple other Freedom Fighters at one time, but also match and surpass the likes of Knuckles, Antoine, and even Geoffrey St. John, a former member of the Secret Service who has trained in every method of armed and unarmed combat. Sonic is also a cunning and tactical fighter, specializing in split-second decision-making and quick thinking, has shown to use the environment to his advantage in multiple different ways, overwhelming opponents with momentum-fueled strikes, and several other tactics. Sonic also excels in swordsmanship, being knowledgeable on the abilities and different powers of the Sword of Acorns. Along with his combat methods comes his speed. Sonic has demonstrated flawless coordination, equilibrium and dexterity, pulling off fluid and graceful maneuvers regardless of his surroundings. He has created sculptures in seconds, has effortlessly ran across tightropes while holding somebody, has repeatedly dodged and maneuvered around Swatbots firing lasers at him in close quarters, and has even displayed enough grace and nimbleness to run in between falling raindrops to stay dry)
he also has "Limited Instinctive Reaction (At his most serious, Sonic has been shown to be capable of fighting like normal and pulling off evasive maneuvers without forethought)"
no-one gonna argue Sonic?
 
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