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Our Profiles For Resident Evil Biohazard and Village (specifically) are an absolute mess.
Ethan Winter's Page Is Outdated. We've discussed revisions and additions here and here. It's been months, and nothing's been added despite numerous changes and upgrades being agreed on. And he's long overdue for a better defining of his tier and a speed upgrade.
Miranda's Page Only Needs Minor Changes. I'll get to that later, when I talk about upgrades and other revisions.
Alcina Dimitrescu's Page Is In Need Of Minor Changes. A similar case to Miranda, I'd say.
Minor Changes For Jack Baker As Well. This one's a pretty small change, but it does need to happen in my opinion.
Speed Upgrades
These changes are pretty simple. First off, I'd like to say Ethan should be upgraded to at least Superhuman or at most Subsonic due to him regularly fighting with Lycans and other monsters that are explicitly stated to be superhuman throughout the entire game. As for Subsonic, I've heard Ethan can arrow time at close range. Alcina shouldn't have ever had a Normal Human rating, due to easily being able to strike Ethan before he can react, and she should also be superior to her daughters who are also able to fight with Ethan at close range. So I'd suggest a Superhuman upgrade for Alcina, due to her being killed by Ethan before he does these arrow timing feats. She should also have this rating regardless, due to her being a successful Cadou enhanced entity. And as shown before, Cadou users are superior to humans.
Miranda should get Superhuman to Subsonic, just like Ethan due to actually being faster than he is. As well as logically being superior to the other lords, two of whom should be ranked at Superhuman at the very least. As for Jack Baker, I'd ask that his first and third key both be upgraded to Superhuman due to the molded once again, being said to be superior to humans. His third key should most certainly have a superhuman rating, due to out speeding a motor boat while slowed down by water. Mind you, most motor boats can travel at about 30mph, which is already Superhuman to begin with. The other molded from Biohazard should receive a similar upgrade, like Eveline and Marguerite, should we ever make a profile for her. The Lycans should at least be scaled to a Gray Wolf, due to those being the main wolves found in Romania and they also seem to closely resemble them. Gray Wolves can apparently sprint at up to 40 mph, which is also a Superhuman level of speed.
Finally, Ethan should not be scaled to Chris. While they most likely fought in Ethan's training, Chris would obviously not be going all out in a sparring match with a "normal" guy. This also goes for strength and attack potency.
Strength/Attack Potency Upgrades
Obviously, something has to be done here. There are no calculations for anything from RE: 7 or 8, save for Eveline's earthquake. So, I'd like to request some calculations actually. Namely for Alcina smashing apart sections of the castle in her fight.
This only applies to Mutated Alcina, Not base Alcina.
Naturally, Miranda's base form would scale to this, due to her being superior to Alcina. Ethan's durability would scale to this, but his strength would not due to him not being able to really hurt Dimitrescu with his knife strikes. While on the topic of Ethan, he should scale to his durability from the first game at the very least, due to him now being superior to his former self. Ethan is also able to kill the molded with his physical strength, and they can survive being lit on fire for several seconds, which is a wall level feat. The RE 8 cast should also scale to this, due to being more powerful than RE 7 and 8 Ethan.
Ethan should also have a separate tag/key for his weapons like the other RE protagonists have. I'd also propose a Lifting Strength upgrade for Ethan. That being from Athletic Human to Peak Human or possibly higher, due to being able to grapple with large monsters, and throw off Lycans and Molded, both of which are superhuman. As for the possible highest he could scale, he can block hits from Urias, who can lift and throw massive stone pillars. This only applys to lifting strength, and durability, due to him once again not really being able to hurt Urias with his physical weapons. Next, we need to actually add Ethan's weapons from RE 8.
Jack Baker's AP is fine for the most part, but could be improved if we had some numbers to apply to his strength. Feats we could calculate would be the car explosion and his brick pillar destroying feat. These would scale to RE 7 Ethan's durability, and thus RE 8 Ethan's AP. And should we need more reasoning for Ethan to scale to Molded and Lycans, Ethan himself is a Molded. Alcina's base form should be scaled above Ethan, due to her easily throwing him around.
Miscellaneous
Ethan needs a range upgrade, due to his sniper rifle. As previously mentioned, we need to add his new weapons. A list can be found here. Ethan's previously discussed and agreed upon abilities need to be added.
Profile Proposals
Next, I'd like to propose some profiles that I think we should make. First, we need profiles for Lycans and Molded, due to both of them being used for scaling here. Next, we should make a page for both Karl Heisenberg and for Marguerite Baker. Joe Baker could also have a page. Urias is the strongest Lycan and actually has a pretty decent feat that the lords could scale too. So he needs a page. We could also make pages for the Dimitrescu daughters (Bela, Cassandra and Daniela). Finally, Salvatore Moreau and Donna Beneviento should have a page. I'll discuss where I think they should scale in my next point.
Scaling
All right, here we go.
Bottom of the barrel is Donna Beneviento. RE 8 states in game that Donna has no superhuman attributes and only has her hallucinatory powers. And doll control. Next, Lycans and Molded. Both are the most basic enemies in the game, but should be decently into wall level. RE 7 Ethan scales to these, and base form Marguerite should scale to these. Marguerite should scale to a Molded in base albeit higher than Ethan, due to being weaker than Jack but still being stronger than Ethan. Base Jack upscales from Molded and Ethan due to easily being able to manhandle Ethan. Mutated and Swamp Man Jack should be similar to one another in power. Mutated Marguerite should scale to Base Jack, due to being able to damage Ethan in a similar way. Joe Baker should scale to Base Jack due to easily stomping Molded with his bare hands. Urias, the strongest Lycan, should scale above Jack Baker due to his pillar feat. Alcina's base form should be on a similar level to Jack Baker/Urias, or significantly above a Molded/Lycan. RE 8 Ethan could also be scaled above Molded and Lycans, but to an unknown level as while he's clearly just strong as they are, if not stronger, he's still weaker than Alcina. However, he could be compared to one of the Dimitrescu Daughters, which are in a similar position to him, clearly scaling above the Molded/Lycans to an unknown degree.
Next, Moreau's base form should be ranked at unknown due to him never really physically fighting. His fish form should be scaled to Alcina's mutated form, due to both having similar sizes and due to both smashing apart decently large sections of rock. Karl Heisenberg's base form should be scaled to Mutated Moreau and Dimitrescu, due to him canonically be stated to be more powerful than them. He also upscales from Urias's pillar tossing feat. His mutated form clearly upscales his base form, but I'm unsure by how much. Perhaps there's something someone could calculate. Finally, Miranda should upscale from the mutated forms of Moreau and Dimitrescu and Heisenberg's mutated form as well. She should also upscale Eveline, due to her being able to use the Megamycete to effect the entire village, while Eveline was only able to use her mold to effect a ranch. Miranda was also weakened while she did this, so we need to keep that in mind. This will need to be calculated, but I would venture a guess that it hits mid Tier 8 at the very least.
As for suggesting Keys, I would suggest the following. Marguerite, Joe, Alcina, Miranda, Heisenberg and Moreau should have two keys. Marguerite, Alcina, Heisenberg and Moreau separating their base and mutated forms, Joe for his base form and gauntlet buff and finally Miranda for her physical strength and for the Megamycete. Ethan should also have two keys. One for his RE7 self, and one for his RE 8 self.
Further Scaling Organization
Low 9-B: Molded, Lycans, Ethan Winters (RE 7/With RE7 Small Arms), Marguerite (Base)
Mid 9-B: Ethan Winters (RE 8/With RE8 Small Arms), Dimitrescu Daughters
High 9-B: Jack Baker, Marguerite (Mutated), Joe Baker, Alcina (Base)
Possible 9-A: Jack Baker (Mutated/Swamp Man), Joe Baker (Gauntlet), Urias, Moreau (Mutated), Alcina (Mutated), Heisenberg (Base)
Possible Higher 9-A: Heisenberg (Mutated), Miranda
8-C: Ethan Winters (With Heavy Weapons)
Likely Higher Tier 8: Miranda (With Megamycete)
Peak Human Lifting Strength: Everyone (RE 7 and 8)
Superhuman Speed (Combat/Reactions): Everyone (RE 7 and 8)
Possible Subsonic Speed (Combat/Reactions): Ethan Winters (RE 8 Late Game), Heisenberg (Both forms), Miranda
Below Average Human Speed (Movement): Jack Baker (Mutated), Molded
That said, I think that's everything. Thank you for your time in reading through this CRT. I hope I put this together well, and am fully prepared to make any revisions or additions necessary.
Ethan Winter's Page Is Outdated. We've discussed revisions and additions here and here. It's been months, and nothing's been added despite numerous changes and upgrades being agreed on. And he's long overdue for a better defining of his tier and a speed upgrade.
Miranda's Page Only Needs Minor Changes. I'll get to that later, when I talk about upgrades and other revisions.
Alcina Dimitrescu's Page Is In Need Of Minor Changes. A similar case to Miranda, I'd say.
Minor Changes For Jack Baker As Well. This one's a pretty small change, but it does need to happen in my opinion.
Speed Upgrades
These changes are pretty simple. First off, I'd like to say Ethan should be upgraded to at least Superhuman or at most Subsonic due to him regularly fighting with Lycans and other monsters that are explicitly stated to be superhuman throughout the entire game. As for Subsonic, I've heard Ethan can arrow time at close range. Alcina shouldn't have ever had a Normal Human rating, due to easily being able to strike Ethan before he can react, and she should also be superior to her daughters who are also able to fight with Ethan at close range. So I'd suggest a Superhuman upgrade for Alcina, due to her being killed by Ethan before he does these arrow timing feats. She should also have this rating regardless, due to her being a successful Cadou enhanced entity. And as shown before, Cadou users are superior to humans.
Miranda should get Superhuman to Subsonic, just like Ethan due to actually being faster than he is. As well as logically being superior to the other lords, two of whom should be ranked at Superhuman at the very least. As for Jack Baker, I'd ask that his first and third key both be upgraded to Superhuman due to the molded once again, being said to be superior to humans. His third key should most certainly have a superhuman rating, due to out speeding a motor boat while slowed down by water. Mind you, most motor boats can travel at about 30mph, which is already Superhuman to begin with. The other molded from Biohazard should receive a similar upgrade, like Eveline and Marguerite, should we ever make a profile for her. The Lycans should at least be scaled to a Gray Wolf, due to those being the main wolves found in Romania and they also seem to closely resemble them. Gray Wolves can apparently sprint at up to 40 mph, which is also a Superhuman level of speed.
Finally, Ethan should not be scaled to Chris. While they most likely fought in Ethan's training, Chris would obviously not be going all out in a sparring match with a "normal" guy. This also goes for strength and attack potency.
Strength/Attack Potency Upgrades
Obviously, something has to be done here. There are no calculations for anything from RE: 7 or 8, save for Eveline's earthquake. So, I'd like to request some calculations actually. Namely for Alcina smashing apart sections of the castle in her fight.
This only applies to Mutated Alcina, Not base Alcina.
Naturally, Miranda's base form would scale to this, due to her being superior to Alcina. Ethan's durability would scale to this, but his strength would not due to him not being able to really hurt Dimitrescu with his knife strikes. While on the topic of Ethan, he should scale to his durability from the first game at the very least, due to him now being superior to his former self. Ethan is also able to kill the molded with his physical strength, and they can survive being lit on fire for several seconds, which is a wall level feat. The RE 8 cast should also scale to this, due to being more powerful than RE 7 and 8 Ethan.
Ethan should also have a separate tag/key for his weapons like the other RE protagonists have. I'd also propose a Lifting Strength upgrade for Ethan. That being from Athletic Human to Peak Human or possibly higher, due to being able to grapple with large monsters, and throw off Lycans and Molded, both of which are superhuman. As for the possible highest he could scale, he can block hits from Urias, who can lift and throw massive stone pillars. This only applys to lifting strength, and durability, due to him once again not really being able to hurt Urias with his physical weapons. Next, we need to actually add Ethan's weapons from RE 8.
Jack Baker's AP is fine for the most part, but could be improved if we had some numbers to apply to his strength. Feats we could calculate would be the car explosion and his brick pillar destroying feat. These would scale to RE 7 Ethan's durability, and thus RE 8 Ethan's AP. And should we need more reasoning for Ethan to scale to Molded and Lycans, Ethan himself is a Molded. Alcina's base form should be scaled above Ethan, due to her easily throwing him around.
Miscellaneous
Ethan needs a range upgrade, due to his sniper rifle. As previously mentioned, we need to add his new weapons. A list can be found here. Ethan's previously discussed and agreed upon abilities need to be added.
Profile Proposals
Next, I'd like to propose some profiles that I think we should make. First, we need profiles for Lycans and Molded, due to both of them being used for scaling here. Next, we should make a page for both Karl Heisenberg and for Marguerite Baker. Joe Baker could also have a page. Urias is the strongest Lycan and actually has a pretty decent feat that the lords could scale too. So he needs a page. We could also make pages for the Dimitrescu daughters (Bela, Cassandra and Daniela). Finally, Salvatore Moreau and Donna Beneviento should have a page. I'll discuss where I think they should scale in my next point.
Scaling
All right, here we go.
Bottom of the barrel is Donna Beneviento. RE 8 states in game that Donna has no superhuman attributes and only has her hallucinatory powers. And doll control. Next, Lycans and Molded. Both are the most basic enemies in the game, but should be decently into wall level. RE 7 Ethan scales to these, and base form Marguerite should scale to these. Marguerite should scale to a Molded in base albeit higher than Ethan, due to being weaker than Jack but still being stronger than Ethan. Base Jack upscales from Molded and Ethan due to easily being able to manhandle Ethan. Mutated and Swamp Man Jack should be similar to one another in power. Mutated Marguerite should scale to Base Jack, due to being able to damage Ethan in a similar way. Joe Baker should scale to Base Jack due to easily stomping Molded with his bare hands. Urias, the strongest Lycan, should scale above Jack Baker due to his pillar feat. Alcina's base form should be on a similar level to Jack Baker/Urias, or significantly above a Molded/Lycan. RE 8 Ethan could also be scaled above Molded and Lycans, but to an unknown level as while he's clearly just strong as they are, if not stronger, he's still weaker than Alcina. However, he could be compared to one of the Dimitrescu Daughters, which are in a similar position to him, clearly scaling above the Molded/Lycans to an unknown degree.
Next, Moreau's base form should be ranked at unknown due to him never really physically fighting. His fish form should be scaled to Alcina's mutated form, due to both having similar sizes and due to both smashing apart decently large sections of rock. Karl Heisenberg's base form should be scaled to Mutated Moreau and Dimitrescu, due to him canonically be stated to be more powerful than them. He also upscales from Urias's pillar tossing feat. His mutated form clearly upscales his base form, but I'm unsure by how much. Perhaps there's something someone could calculate. Finally, Miranda should upscale from the mutated forms of Moreau and Dimitrescu and Heisenberg's mutated form as well. She should also upscale Eveline, due to her being able to use the Megamycete to effect the entire village, while Eveline was only able to use her mold to effect a ranch. Miranda was also weakened while she did this, so we need to keep that in mind. This will need to be calculated, but I would venture a guess that it hits mid Tier 8 at the very least.
As for suggesting Keys, I would suggest the following. Marguerite, Joe, Alcina, Miranda, Heisenberg and Moreau should have two keys. Marguerite, Alcina, Heisenberg and Moreau separating their base and mutated forms, Joe for his base form and gauntlet buff and finally Miranda for her physical strength and for the Megamycete. Ethan should also have two keys. One for his RE7 self, and one for his RE 8 self.
Further Scaling Organization
Low 9-B: Molded, Lycans, Ethan Winters (RE 7/With RE7 Small Arms), Marguerite (Base)
Mid 9-B: Ethan Winters (RE 8/With RE8 Small Arms), Dimitrescu Daughters
High 9-B: Jack Baker, Marguerite (Mutated), Joe Baker, Alcina (Base)
Possible 9-A: Jack Baker (Mutated/Swamp Man), Joe Baker (Gauntlet), Urias, Moreau (Mutated), Alcina (Mutated), Heisenberg (Base)
Possible Higher 9-A: Heisenberg (Mutated), Miranda
8-C: Ethan Winters (With Heavy Weapons)
Likely Higher Tier 8: Miranda (With Megamycete)
Peak Human Lifting Strength: Everyone (RE 7 and 8)
Superhuman Speed (Combat/Reactions): Everyone (RE 7 and 8)
Possible Subsonic Speed (Combat/Reactions): Ethan Winters (RE 8 Late Game), Heisenberg (Both forms), Miranda
Below Average Human Speed (Movement): Jack Baker (Mutated), Molded
That said, I think that's everything. Thank you for your time in reading through this CRT. I hope I put this together well, and am fully prepared to make any revisions or additions necessary.
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