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It's literally called an illusion in the Level Name, Description, and Mission.
Wow.
Wow.
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Relooking at Mario's stats
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So was the Mansion that disappeared like an illusion, only to leave behind money Luigi collected to buy a house.
Anything else?
Anything else?
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That doesn't mean the spatial distortions and other weird shit was real those are obviously the illusions.
You seem to be under the idea that it's not an illusion as long as you are able to play it in a level.
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Luigi only ended up having to buy a tent in the end
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King Boo might as well be using his own version of Naruto Tsukuyomi
Just saying
Just saying
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You mean the level that's entered via a portal (The Paranormal Dimension) and was stated and shown to be a place where the ghosts reside in?
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? Luigi buying a house with money made in the Mansion by King Boo has nothing to do with levels. What?
What? There is no logic or statements that separates the Money's existence from the Mansion's existence.
? Where is the proof thats the canon ending when Dark Moon starts Luigi off in a different house than the one Luigi shares with his brother in Paper Mario and the Mario & Luigi's series
Low key doesn't matter either way, since Luigi is still using the money from the mansion to purchase things.
@Hagane_no_Saiyajin I'm starting to talk in circles with you.
Trolling at this point.
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That's what I'm referring to, where's the money if he's living in that house?
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Don't forget that the tent is one of the endings
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... he used the money to buy the house and furniture. That's where the money went.
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It also has nothing to do with the level not being an illusion, which it is.
"This completely unrelated thing is real which means the illusions is an illusion"
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I don't need to, but I'll do it anyway; I mean as in odd stuff being an illusion being the take that takes less speculation, like things being warped, spaces being bigger inside something than what they look like from the outside, etc.
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I think Creation and Destruction are considered equivalent but don’t quote me on that.
Maybe we can get the opinions of DDM, Ryu and Dino on King Boo’s 4-A realm?
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The Money and Levels have everything to do with each other. How else did Luigi obtain the money? Where else did the money come from? Its not reasonable to ignore the money to fit a self-made narrative.
No idea what you are quoting.
Not overreacting to your comment. In the talk of common sense for Mario, Luigi's Mansion 1's architect should raise some alarms with how IRL it looks, in the Mario franchise. Not that it has done it before or since, but very rarely.
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“King Boo has created the ultimate illusion, and he's waiting for you to show yourself. Are you brave enough to face him in his own territory once again?” - In-game description
Neutral on King Boo at this point.
Neutral on King Boo at this point.
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Those trying to attempt to dismiss King Boo’s feat by using in game text using “illusion”, answer this:
Can you counter the first game with “illusions aren’t real” argument?
Mario can’t get out of the painting > “illusions” transform the surroundings and the painting to Bowser > Bowser sucks Luigi into the painting, where Luigi defeats King Boo
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See previous posts about the Money. Nobody who are against King Boo being 4-A has been able to counter the Money.
Can you counter the first game with “illusions aren’t real” argument?
Mario can’t get out of the painting > “illusions” transform the surroundings and the painting to Bowser > Bowser sucks Luigi into the painting, where Luigi defeats King Boo
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See previous posts about the Money. Nobody who are against King Boo being 4-A has been able to counter the Money.
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You literally posted a scan saying that the mansion isn't real, unlike the treasure left behind, so yes.
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Mansion stated to disappear into the night. Matt takes that as to mean it was not real and Luigi was high on shrooms the whole time. Matt furthers own Narrative.
Egad says the Treasure seems to be real, meaning Egad isn't sure but it didn't disappear. Matt introduce headcanon that it means King Boo didn't create the treasure.
Egad says the Treasure seems to be real, meaning Egad isn't sure but it didn't disappear. Matt introduce headcanon that it means King Boo didn't create the treasure.
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So why did the Treasure Luigi didn’t collect from the Mansion disappear along with the Mansion, if they were 2 separate things?
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Just saying, I don't think we need everyone to piece everything together before applying the changes, like the Bowser jr. feat.
Talking about the treasure being real recontextualises the latter thing said as it comes out of nowhere while following it with a "but". This much was Matt's thought process, he did nothing wrong unless making drawings for everything he says is needed, regardless of complexity. So as always, those "Matt how could you", "Oh Matt is doing X", etc. are uncalled for, they're unnecessarily passionate and that prevents anyone from thinking as well as they could.
Do I need to deconstruct what I meant by that?
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As for Matt, I thought he was pulling my leg as I've already went over and over again about the treasure. I was sure he read previous posts and was ignoring them when he made his comment. I guess I could've been mistaken and he wasn't paying attention to them.
Yes.
Yes.
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Could we please try not have any drama? I am strongly against cyberbullying or harassing other users in any form!
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Some things are illusions and others aren't, "the mansion" may be one but that doesn't mean it is 100% an illusion. Like a rotten food, how much of it is rotten? Some parts? Most of it but not 100%? Who cares the standards, it can be said to be rotten.
So may no one here grab some non-illusion and claim everything to not be an illusion, it doesn't look good.
So may no one here grab some non-illusion and claim everything to not be an illusion, it doesn't look good.
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Huh? I don't understand. You haven't brought up any evidence that separates the Money from everything else King Boo has made. It sounds like a lot of unnecessary guess work. I don't know how to be more polite in saying that.
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I’m not taking a side here but have people forgetton that illusions being good enough to act on the physical plane is a thing?
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Not so much forgotten, just am not well verse on that subject.
(I say that and forget Infinite is a thing in Sonic)
(I say that and forget Infinite is a thing in Sonic)
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It's pretty odd to say the Paranormal Dimension (that is the stage's name) is just an illusion. Because for one, that place was always a thing. It's where the ghosts came from, so they'd have to come by there. The only illusion-like thing from that boss I can think of is when King Boo plays tricks on Luigi. But that's it. I don't like the assumption of "well this could be an illusion and not this".
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Back with some new info, it was never stated to be an illusion.
"This is a space created by King Boo's huge power in a place that doesn't belong to this world. Do you have the courage to fight there?"
"This is a space created by King Boo's huge power in a place that doesn't belong to this world. Do you have the courage to fight there?"
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I have a question; who translated this? Preferably, it would be nice to know how credible they are. Also, we should get someone else knowledgeable in Japanese to take a look at the scan. They can see if the translation is similar and lines up with what's been said.
If this is legitimate though, then I think it's pretty conclusive that King Boo would scale to the full thing. The only argument I would see at that point would be that King Boo created the area, but the stars are illusions he supplemented. However, that seems like an unwarranted assumption rather than the stars just being part of this "space" that he created.
If this is legitimate though, then I think it's pretty conclusive that King Boo would scale to the full thing. The only argument I would see at that point would be that King Boo created the area, but the stars are illusions he supplemented. However, that seems like an unwarranted assumption rather than the stars just being part of this "space" that he created.
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Looking at that sentence on Jisho, I interpreted it as 'King created with his power has created a world that doesn't exist.'
This may or may not be interpreted as being an illusion
This may or may not be interpreted as being an illusion
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But I'll let everyone else look at the link to see what can be come up with
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Just know that japanese structure their sentences as subject, object, verb
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Stop fourposting like that
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