Regarding Ken Kaneki's tier

[Antvasima]

It does have properties of electricity like how yomo electrocuted mutsuki

Here it even conducts water

http://readms.net/r/tokyo_ghoulre/141/4569/10

If it does conduct through water, it should probably be counted as real lightning, as long as it is 8-C+ in terms of energy.

However, I did not notice any water in your scan.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Yomo used a big puddle he and Mutsuki were in to conduct the electricity from his attack to catch Mutsuki off guard.

I'm just unsure if him shooting electrical attacks otherwise is actually the electricity itself or electrified RC/Kagune cells

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Muhammedmco]

@Antvasima

So doesn't that mean that Kaneki should be Massively Hypersonic or at least Hypersonic+?

 

[Antvasima]

Did he avoid the lightning from a close range?

 

[Muhammedmco]

Yes.

 

[Muhammedmco]

Wait up so i can get the picture.

 

[Muhammedmco]

Here it is.

 

[Muhammedmco]

Also for Kaneki's Regenerationn. He got stabbed to the head and had it penetrated through the back of his skull.

Here's the proof:

Doesn't that mean that his regen should be Mid?

 

[Antvasima]

"At least Low-Mid" seems safer, given that he was not decapitated.

I am not sure how far away he was from the discharge, so I am uncertain about the speed.

 

[Muhammedmco]

You can't see the distance from the small pic, right?

 

[Antvasima]

I cannot approximate the distance from that picture period.

 

[Muhammedmco]

I see.

I think i will look for the chapter that has said picture and i will bring it to you to see more details about it, deal?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it would be better if you find a page that shows a specific distance between them.

 

[Antvasima]

However, if it was up to 12 meters or so, it would still fall under Massively Hypersonic.

 

[Muhammedmco]

So, the first thing to do is to find a page which contains said picture with more resolution and size.

But if you say Massively Hypersonic, then what does that mean? i mean at what Mach?

 

[Antvasima]

Mach 100 to Mach 1000.

 

[Muhammedmco]

I see.

I just have to know which chapter is it.

 

[ProspectX]

All we know is its electricity but I think that there's a discussion about how
Electricity=/=Speed of Lightning

You mean bio-electricty produced by that kagune?

 

[Antvasima]

You can read our standards here: Lightning Dodging Feats

 

[Dziga]

Chapter 152 was released and we got a statement that might qualify Kaneki as At least 8-A

 

[Muhammedmco]

We can say it's at least 8-A, possibly 7-B, since his Kagune caused havoc all over the entire Tokyo City.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That wouldn't make it 7-B

8-A seems fine though, judging by sheer size.

 

[Muhammedmco]

Also, here's that thing concerning the lightning dodging

http://readms.net/r/tokyo_ghoulre/141/4569/9

I'm not good at calculations, so somebody must calculate it.

 

[Muhammedmco]

That wouldn't make it 7-B

8-A seems fine though, judging by sheer size.

I said possibly

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Not even possibly.

Not nearly enough destruction has been done to warrant 7-B

And she very clearly didn't dodge that

 

[Muhammedmco]

Okay. About the lightning dodging feat. I brought the chapter with its pic. Can someone calculate it?

 

[Muhammedmco]

And she very clearly didn't dodge that

Huh?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That attack electrocutes her, and fries her alive, incapacitating her. She doesn't even have a chance to dodge.

 

[Muhammedmco]

And that?

 

[Muhammedmco]

She literally dodged that one.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That's so small I can't tell what's going on

 

[Aizenishere]

@Monarch

It's someone dodging electricity

 

[Muhammedmco]

@Monarch

It's someone dodging electricity

Yeah. That's Kaneki.

Here's the lightning thing, but bigger. Now can someone calc it, please?:

http://img.bato.to/comics/2014/08/19/t/read53f32992ae253/img000011.png

 

[Muhammedmco]

Concerning Kaneki being 7-B:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1546494

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I've commented on that thread, and I've said how it is misleading to rate him at 7-B.

He'd be 7-B through full body mass motion kinetic energy. As in if he stood up and ran into someone with his full mass, the F = M x A of his body would be city level. But he never even moves his whole body. He just moves his tentacles which max out at skyscraper sized, sprouts little flesh golems, and grows.

Calculating the KE of moving one of his tentacles I'd be fine with, but using the KE of the whole body is a no-go.

As for everything else, I'm planning out a revision, so please wait.

 

[Muhammedmco]

Okay. His tentacles' KE is good, and his lightning dodging feat calc. I'm with you in everything.

 

[Antvasima]

This is an old thread. Should we close it?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Yes