Regarding 3 thread per verse rule (for tensura)

[PHANtomFELdway]

Just to let you guys know (since a certain someone is typing without permission) THIS IS A STAFF ONLY THREAD.



This will be my first thread so it might not have the best layout.

Since no one can answer my question cause there seems to be no standards on it yet I asked for permission to make a thread about this.Here and Here

Let’s say there are two continuations. A WN and a LN. IF they are two different stories would they share the same 3 threads?

For example. TenSura (that time I got reincarnated as a slime.

The LN version is an entirely different story with different plot/characters (some characters in the LN don’t exist in the WN. And if they do, things about them are different from their WN versions )/abilities/cosmology.



To give an example yukki from the WN has mind control and yukki from the LN has power null. So if you made a thread about layered hax you would need to make two separate threads and that would take up 2/3 slots per verse even though the only thing really the same is the name.

Both WN and LN have lots of source material (both have around 22 volumes worth of material) and are very popular. With the WN having over 400 million views (since 7 years ago so probably way more now) and the LN version being the best selling LN with over 40 million sales.





So I was wondering if a rule could be added for instances like this so that they can have thier own three threads instead of sharing . (I think this is really simple and i feel like this is probably already a Thing) I asked ant and akm but it seems that it isn’t .


(Just for clarification. This is ONLY MEANT FOR SOMETHING AS POPULAR AS TENSURA ONSITE and OFF)

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

(both have around 22 volumes worth of material)

Considering the site stories for both In and WN, I think 25~ Volumes worth would be more correct.

With the WN having over 400 million views

1 billion bare minimum, not even counting the tens of English sites where it has millions to tens of millions of views each, for the web novel alone.

Anyways, it was finally time for someone to bring this up.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Considering the site stories for both In and WN, I think 25~ Volumes worth would be more correct.

1 billion bare minimum, not even counting the tens of English sites where it has millions to tens of millions of views each, for the web novel alone.

Anyways, it was finally time for someone to bring this up.

This is a staff thread btw

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I asked for permission to make a thread about this.

From whom?

Also
I kinda neutral here with this because there are many verses in our wiki that have different continuities and multiple profiles for the same character. These profiles exist because characters often vary significantly between continuities. If we applied your reasoning, the current rule of three threads per verse would no longer work, and we'd end up with a flood of CRTs, making things chaotic.

That said, we do make exceptions for certain franchises like DC, Marvel, and Dragon Ball. These are hugely popular, regularly updated, and have an enormous amount of material to cover. Because of this, they’re allowed six CRTs per verse instead of the usual three. Extending such exceptions to every verse with multiple continuities would create an unmanageable workload and defeat the purpose of the current rules.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

From whom?

Both ant and AKM have given permission. Idk how to link replies so I could not link it in the thread

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Also
I kinda neutral here with this because there are many verses in our wiki that have different continuities and multiple profiles for the same character. These profiles exist because characters often vary significantly between continuities. If we applied your reasoning, the current rule of three threads per verse would no longer work, and we'd end up with a flood of CRTs, making things chaotic.

That said, we do make exceptions for certain franchises like DC, Marvel, and Dragon Ball. These are hugely popular, regularly updated, and have an enormous amount of material to cover. Because of this, they’re allowed six CRTs per verse instead of the usual three. Extending such exceptions to every verse with multiple continuities would create an unmanageable workload and defeat the purpose of the current rules.

Noted. Tho I do think tenSura is a pretty big verse that is also upgraded alot. In fact i am pretty sure rimuru’s profile is one of the most viewed

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Extending such exceptions to every verse with multiple continuities would create an unmanageable workload and defeat the purpose of the current rules.

I think TenSura, too, can qualify for the hugely popular verses. Rimuru's profile is one of the most visited pages on wiki, the first in tier 1 especiaIIy, speaks for itself.

Even more so, considering that while the verse has few active supporters, but the ones that are active are active to an extreme degree, such as myself. And I do not know for how long I can keep updating the verse, so it would help me tons if the number of threads allowed for it were increased.

Since I often have 2 major threads for the verse open almost all the time, most of which take months to end, I am left with only 1 more thread to add the tons of smaller upgrades that can be finished quickly. To give a quick idea, if not for the 3 thread per verse limit, I would have done as much if not more ln series revision threads as compared by the amount of WN series ones over the span of half an year.

In conclusion, it would be better to make it an exception, at least to the point where we are allowed 3 threads per WN and 3 threads per the light novel version separately.

Edit: I was informed on discord that this was strictly a staff thread, which I didnt think it was initially. Just to clarify, I did not see the few posts above me as I was writing a post myself and the page did not update. Therefore, I wont comment further without asking permission first. Appologies
I thought active verse supporters were allowed to participate in a rule change for that specific verse by default.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Noted. Tho I do think tenSura is a pretty big verse that is also upgraded alot. In fact i am pretty sure rimuru’s profile is one of the most viewed

Since I mistakenly assumed that your thread wasn't focused solely on your verse, Tensura but for other verses too, but my stance on the matter still remains unchanged.

 

[Agnaa]

If we don't treat an adaptation as sharing the same canon, I'd say that we wouldn't count their threads as being for the same verse.

But if we treat them as the same canon, or one as primary and one as secondary canon (i.e. profiles mainly based on an LN but where the anime is used for timeframes in calcs), I'd say we'd count their threads as being for the same verse.

This is mainly relevant for verses with AUs that would cause there to be profiles for the different versions, despite them sharing a canon. But generally, if they have their own profiles, they'd have their own thread counter.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

If we don't treat an adaptation as sharing the same canon, I'd say that we wouldn't count their threads as being for the same verse.

But if we treat them as the same canon, or one as primary and one as secondary canon (i.e. profiles mainly based on an LN but where the anime is used for timeframes in calcs), I'd say we'd count their threads as being for the same verse.

This is mainly relevant for verses with AUs that would cause there to be profiles for the different versions, despite them sharing a canon. Generally, if they have their own profiles, they'd have their own thread counter.

I have similar thoughts to this.

 

[Dereck03]

I would be willing to agree with this, as the OP indicates it would only be for verses that for example in this case both WN and LN possess different continuities despite being the same series as such.

So maybe the rule should apply to 3 of the LN and 3 of the WN, but it should be noted that also having too many threads open at the same time (imagine having 6 CRTs open and having the possibility of no input for a long time) would be a bit tiresome.

And another thing also to take into account at the time of this as it could somehow harm the reliability of the verse is not to mix the contents of, for example this case LN with the WN (such as using WN scans for LN or using stuffs as supportive evidence and vice versa), since for something is being made this distinction by separating the canon. Since this would also be inflicting a violation of the Web Novels and Light Novels rule. This would not apply to series that do not have this difference of course.