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Record Of Ragnarok Discussion Thread #1

Phsccarvalho said:
I think he beats the buddha. Zero nirvana is not something he can access normally, and the only thing he really can are his eyes.

I don't think any of the buddha's equipment (aside from the scythe) did much damage to lubu.

Lubu has more experience, combat skills, can close wounds with muscular control, and also has combat foresight. I don't think Buddha could do as much damage with just a few attacks as Thor. In the end lubu will probably use the sky eater and buddha will probably try to use the shield since the attack is probably unavoidable considering the range, and I'm almost certain that the sky eater will destroy the shield along with the buddha.

Of course, without forgetting the power of lubu volund.

The shield would be instantly broken.
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Against Sasaki, I think Lu Bu can fire up a lot of attacks during the fight, but he will end up not hitting Sasaki because of his ability to predict and evolve, even if Sasaki is stupid and tries to block an attack from Lubu.

Anyway, Lubu has resistance to analytical prediction with Sky Eater, so he has this surprise attack advantage along with power and range that I don't think Sasaki would be able to deal with.
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I should mention that i am working under the assamption that everyone is at their peak. So Buddha has the Nirvana sword, Kojiro is his Post R3 self, Jack has London etc.

With that in mind Buddha can quickly get in close range thanks to his speed and FS and kill LuBu with the Nirvana sword.

Sasaki would be similar but he'd first need to get some time to scan him, which shouldn't be to difficult given LuBu starts fights out either standing still or slowly walking up to his opponents and hit them with a basic swing
 
Yes but in that same fight Sun Jian is able to get in close range to Lubu and strike him, it just didn't do anything cause he lacked the AP. Sasaki not only has a far superior scanner but has the AP to cleanly slice divine weapons and bisect Poseidon

Edit: Nvm reread the fight and Sky Eater was used before he got in close, he only survived cause his friend jumped in. Still Sasaki's scanner is far superior so he still has a good shot of dodging it
 
Giannysmag said:
Sasaki not only has a far superior scanner
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Superior in functionality, but irrelevant in terms of resistance. Lubu has resistance to analytical forecasting with Sky Eater, Sasaki having a more complete analytical forecast does not make her layered or overcome resistance.

Giannysmag said:
has the AP to cleanly slice divine weapons and bisect Poseidon
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And Lubu, in addition to being the strongest human, faced Thor, the strongest Norse who uses the strongest divine weapons in the heavens.

Like seriously, poseidon doesn't have any kind of good durability feat and destroying divine weapons isn't even taken into consideration for AP on the wiki.
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So I highly doubt that Sasaki could kill him with a single blow.

I'm not saying that Lubu wins, especially 100% of the time, but I think it's closer to a 50/50 with an advantage for Sasaki for being able to dodge Lubu's attacks, as well as an advantage for Lubu for being able to predict the Sasaki's prediction and change his attack form + have an attack resistant to analytical prediction.
 
I would like to mention that LuBu already had prior knowledge of Sun Jian's ability which is why he used SE, he wouldn't have that against Sasaki. Also looking through the fight i actually don't think anything implies SE is resistant to scanning. Sun Jian just says it's massive but he never even gets the chance to dodge it
 
Giannysmag said:
I would like to mention that LuBu already had prior knowledge of Sun Jian's ability which is why he used SE, he wouldn't have that against Sasaki. Also looking through the fight i actually don't think anything implies SE is resistant to scanning. Sun Jian just says it's massive but he never even gets the chance to dodge it
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This is how it is in the profile and the justifications in the profiles, so I am using the things accepted in the profile. If you disagree with something, crt.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Fists >>>> magic
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That's why Weus and Wadam stay top 2 in the verse
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It's unbelievable how the only good thing Poseidon has on this wiki is speed, and even then it's not even enough to blitz me one vs thread (if we put Poseidon vs any other human)

very funny
 
Why wouldn't it be enough to blitz the other humans? We scale everyone from Ares percieving the Divine Axe kick and Poseidon can move FTE to that Ares
 
Giannysmag said:
Why wouldn't it be enough to blitz the other humans? We scale everyone from Ares percieving the Divine Axe kick and Poseidon can move FTE to that Ares
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In a vs thread for a speed blitz to occur, the speed has to be greater than 2x from what I remember. It's much bigger but I don't remember exactly which one it is.

The speed of humans is 1.24c and poseidon is 2.20c.

If we put a human and poseidon in a vs thread, according to the wiki's rules, a speed blitz would not happen.
 
Giannysmag said:
Doesnt matter, my GOAT has Zeus level stats so he solo's either way
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Another thing that would be good was saying that it stores techniques.

Of course, he has great stats in a match ability comparable to Zeus.

But I wanted more, at least he's better than Poseidon, the guy has almost no skills.

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Speaking of statistics, I should remove the drank Chronos' blood part from the Adamas thing.

This implies that Poseidon beat a guy at Cronos' level, and in Japanese it is said that Adamas has the blood of Cronos (because he is his son, obviously)
 
Sparkive said:
this is LuBu's Sky Eater in the anime 1:40
This is the calculation of Lubu's feat not yet evaluated that I did, and I have a 2 second ending for the anime
But... really from where to where the feat is performed? because it seems like more than 2 seconds to me, (on top of everything it's seen from a different angle than the manga, so can I even use the anime's timeframe?)
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So this is how Lü Bu is looking so far

Child (Nine Years Old) - Wall Level (Killed a wild boar, Blocked Liu Xu's mace with his foot, Shattered Liu Xin's knee with headbutt, Tore Liu Xu's jaw off with a punch, Blocked Li Tang's Twin Golden Massacre Blades with his bare hands, Decapitated Liu Tang with a kick), Superhuman Lifting Strength (Able to drag a large wild boar, Carried a large bundle of wood, Shattered Liu Xin's arms), Subsonic (Moved faster than his Liu Xu could see, Created after images)

Teenage (Seventeen Years Old) - Wall Level (Stronger than before, easily broke through a stone wall, Incaved Octavius's body with a single chop, Superior to Octavius who crushed the ground beneath with a sword chop, Tore open Cesc's chest from his punch grazing him, Crushed the ground beneath Cesc's while performing an attack), Superhuman Lifting Strength (Stronger than before, Caught an attack from Octavius before completely crushing his forearm, Superior to Gryps who can pull large boulders, Broke a bears neck), Subsonic Speed (Stronger than before, Can created after images and is superior to Cesc's and Tanaos who can do the same, kept up with Gryps who blitzed Tanaos)

Adult (30s-40) - Country Level+ (Split the clouds using Sky Eater), Class K Lifting Strength (Threw some boulders), Subsonic movement speed (Killed several trained warriors before they could react, deflected and dodged crossbow arrow fire, Superior to Sun Jian who can create afterimages and move faster than the eye can see, kept up with Red Hare in a race), Hypersonic Attack Speed (Performed Sky Eater)

Völundr (1800+ Years old) - Planet Level (Could clash with Thor who is stated to strong enough to shatter the Earth), Class K Lifting Strength (Stronger than Before, Blocked strikes from Thor), Subsonic Movement speed and attack speed (Stronger than before, reacted to Thor's attack which are faster than the eye can see), possibly Relativistic attack speed (Should be superior to Ares)
 
I will make a copy and paste of what I said to Phsccarvalho:
Sorry, I'm having trouble getting the air mass (the rules have changed and I can't use "The density of clouds in terms of KE is 1.003" anymore)
This is the calculator used to determine that: https://jscalc.io/embed/XmzHyrORzxFLum94

To do this I need to determine:
  • The area (The assumed base horizon is 20 km, that is equivalent to the radius that when converted into area is 1256637061.44)
  • The thickness of the cloud (based on the original calculation, 8000 is assumed because cumulonimbus)
  • The "Height of cloud above sea level" (in this case 100 km)
But by putting such a high amount in the height of the cloud above sea level, it causes the mass of the cloud to be 0 in the calculator, and from there I don't know how to continue.

However I was able to do this, since the feat was outdated and unusable:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Lü Bu cuts the sky (Record of Ragnarok)

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
 
So what's the deal with Typhon ? Some translations say he's the strongest monster in Heaven or smth but does someone know if the jap version say the same thing ?
 
1 - One thing I forgot to mention is that after the Apollo fight, the Guidebook is kind of useless. This shit barely talks about the Ragnarok characters and more about the real myth they were inspired by.

2 - Volume 1 of shuumatsu called Thor the Norse supreme god, so you can use scale.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
1 - One thing I forgot to mention is that after the Apollo fight, the Guidebook is kind of useless. This shit barely talks about the Ragnarok characters and more about the real myth they were inspired by.

2 - Volume 1 of shuumatsu called Thor the Norse supreme god, so you can use scale.
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They really had to get Thor and Lu Bu out of the story first huh, or else they'd be cracking anyone else's heads (more specifically referring to Thor [with the exception of against Adam])
 
AnAverageUsername said:
They really had to get Thor and Lu Bu out of the story first huh, or else they'd be cracking anyone else's heads (more specifically referring to Thor [with the exception of against Adam])
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Thor is expected, besides, as I said, apart from the zenon comic's promotional page, he is """"""""only"""""""" as the strongest Norse/supreme Norse.

Lubu that is 💀
 
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