I think it was discussed on downgrading most of the contesting gods to low 5-B(+) with downscaling, with only the top tier gods (Zeus, Shiva, Thor, and Beelzebub with vibrations) as 5-BSo, would you guys want to downgrade the entire verse from everyone being planet level cause most of scaling relies entirely on this statement. Which doesn't make too much sense as this would mean Ares who stalemated Heracles also has the strength of Zeus, that Heracles after training is stronger than Zeus, and base Zeus, who stopped Heracles and Ares's attacks, has strength that surpasses Zeus's
Right but low 5-B relies on this statement as well, does it not.
Nah, just general downscaling of the combined evidence of 5-B through other planet level feats.... I think
Every profile is a mess, Beelzebub a resistance to fear manipulation because he's not scared of Odin, bro's just suicidal
There was a downgrade for this but because of the verse works in its nature and writing it was rejected. Essentially the story showcases the characters and relation of characters over feats, that's why 90% of the fights and feats outside of the tournament aren't shown, it isn't the focus. This is the same other series like Tales of Destruction, Majo Taisen that pride themselves on their statements. All the series take place in a arena yet all of them have characters with direct statements of being able to destroy the planet or threaten the cosmos or some other high tier feat for them, yet the best shown is cracking the ground in their fights in a small arena. The statements are there to give us an indication of how strong they are in relation to others, then other sources outside the manga act as more references to their strengths. The other aspect is also if they do just go all out on the destruction they would just kill everyone in the area and stands.So, would you guys want to downgrade the entire verse from everyone being planet level cause most of scaling relies entirely on this statement. Which doesn't make too much sense as this would mean Ares who stalemated Heracles also has the strength of Zeus, that Heracles after training is stronger than Zeus, and base Zeus, who stopped Heracles and Ares's attacks, has strength that surpasses Zeus's
Most of Record of Ragnarok's statements are bullshit. Heimdall says that "Jack the Ripper" was responsible for the prostitute murders and that Apollo killed Python. Hermes claims that Apollo's arrow are the fastest strike in heaven, Zeus says that anyone other than Beelzebub would've been in serious trouble if they attacked with Plasma Pulse Punch Cross (Bro, that attack is so ******* ass. Shit was called an undefendable pincer attack and then that shit got deflected without an explanation), and Hades states that Petra Realm, Thousand-Armed Avalokitesvara: Warscythe of Salakaya can kill an opponent in a single blow...Only for Pāpīyas to block with with his arm while Buddha is using Karmanirodha Samsara.
Heimdall shouldn't even be there.
Downcaling was not rejected.
Man's gotta make the tournouament more entertaining, but entertaining =/= accurate
Truly one of the names of all time
Adamas Zeus > Cerberus Herc > Labors Herc > base Herc > Ares = backstory Herc = base Zeus > tired backstory HercSo, would you guys want to downgrade the entire verse from everyone being planet level cause most of scaling relies entirely on this statement. Which doesn't make too much sense as this would mean Ares who stalemated Heracles also has the strength of Zeus, that Heracles after training is stronger than Zeus, and base Zeus, who stopped Heracles and Ares's attacks, has strength that surpasses Zeus's
Do we even use Base Zeus when we discuss him? Outside of pushing Shiva down that one time, we basically only consider his muscular form when comparing him to other charaters
I assume they consider base Zeus the muscular form
For me it was never the fact that Shiva backed down, but the fact that Shiva was overpowered despite being angry and clearly on guard that imo puts Zues > Shiva
Zeus > Shiva
He complained about the bone thing, but I don't think so either.
At this point, I think it's best to ask it to close and redo the crt.
The discussion mostly comes down to whether we believe Shiva is getting a boost from the hopes of 1116 other gods or if its just him going all out
But it's better to start again, I think that will cheer people up more.
I mean, we need to rework everyone's page eventually
Record of Ragnarok is a mess of a series, that's all we've confirmed today
The ones that I, Sparkive and Azontr fixed are decent.
You actually reminded me of something. Base Jack has Average human speed but the sandbox for his update CRT had him at Transonic, and iirc it was accepted so what's up with that?The ones that I, Sparkive and Azontr fixed are decent.
We consider how we have several crts who simply die.
We should remove this "Base"
Mild inconvinience with the scaling + being busy irl is good way to lose interest in a CRT. I am gonna get back to it though since it's very important and after it i'm gonna go fix some profiles
Its called base because völundr enhances the bodies and mind of its user
This sounds like top tier Jack
I'm not talking about downscaling, I'm talking about the planetary and above statements as being disregarded as hyperbolic/not real/inconsistent because "no destruction" and only being statements has be rejected in a previous CRT. I'm fine with downscaling.
We don't know how he did it or if it was really him.
Couple of things, one we don't know if he was the one who did that, how his power works, or how Valhalla works. Two, Hermes can't be scaled above by the Ragnarok participants because the reason he isn't participating in Ragnarok isn't because he's weak, but because he doesn't have the desire to throw his life away in battle like everyone else.
