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It's 1C cause of the existence of the Beyonders. I believe his Shield series also had mention of higher Dimensions, but I might be misremembering.
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Reconstructing The White Hot Room
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The entire Marvel multiverse was destroyed by pushing all parallell universes against each other in Hickman's cosmology. Then Ewing added a few higher degrees of existence to that, which seems like somewhere in tier 1-C to me.
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Kinda, but not really ATM. I don't see why this can't be applied already. Seems simple enough.
Or if it's so controversial, we can create a new key and call it the eight multiverse. Would solve the problem ╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭
Or if it's so controversial, we can create a new key and call it the eight multiverse. Would solve the problem ╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭
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A key for what? What exactly is different?
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Eight multiverse incarnation. They are far more powerful than their seventh incarnation (
But I am planning a revision that will give most abstracts a seven and eight key, separating them. Tho I am not sure how long it will take me. It's very low in my list
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Eternity already has a seventh and eight key. We are scaling this WHR/phoenix to eight version which is 1A
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And what of The Phoenix?
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What do you mean?
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That is correct, yes.
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It would get a similar treatment.
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I don’t get the point, but in that case, it means it’s accepted, right?
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Well, the eight multiverse incarnation is far more powerful than their seventh incarnation. Plus the new "retcon" doesn't contradict the older stuff since it's a new cosmology and all.
It will also simplify things later down the line.
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That’s fine, I suppose, then.
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I don’t mind an eighth multiverse key either, if it makes sense and is better consistency wise.
We haven’t gotten much other input, would it be better to apply, and have staff reopen the thread if they have issues down the line? Or just wait another day or so?
We haven’t gotten much other input, would it be better to apply, and have staff reopen the thread if they have issues down the line? Or just wait another day or so?
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Honestly I'm more comfortable with Low 1-A since I still don't think the WHR is outside the multiverse within Oblivion's True Form. Well that or "Low 1-A, likely 1-A" or something like that since we can have different degrees of 1-A.
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Does it have to exist outside of oblivion, for it to have a 1-A status? Since I know other abstracts have that status, but are still within his bounds.
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I might be misremembering, but the farshore is not above the super flow, is it?
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It can't be the in outside since it's completely outside of the "omniverse". There is nothing but oblivion.
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Considering how most abstracts/concepts exists/live in the Superflow, it would make sense to me. Also since it's a conceptual plane - so mystery would fit into it.
Anyway, is Low 1-A agreeable with everyone? If so, ig it needs to be applied since we already wasted tons of time on it.
Anyway, is Low 1-A agreeable with everyone? If so, ig it needs to be applied since we already wasted tons of time on it.
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Right.
Then I guess we need to wait for more feats/elaboration/statements about the new placement of WHR to see what it is.
Then again, Low 1-A is a pretty BIIIIIIG tier.
Then I guess we need to wait for more feats/elaboration/statements about the new placement of WHR to see what it is.
Then again, Low 1-A is a pretty BIIIIIIG tier.
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I dunno, I think it’s pretty blatant. Personally I don’t think there will be mention of the WHR again, atleast in the current comic where the far shore stuff is from. Since it’s not about the Phoenix at all.
If anything it would only expand upon what we already know, which meets the criteria to be 1-A. But that’s just my opinion. Since it’s not really a disagree upon addition. I think it’s fine.
If anything it would only expand upon what we already know, which meets the criteria to be 1-A. But that’s just my opinion. Since it’s not really a disagree upon addition. I think it’s fine.
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I agree with the OP.
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I vaguely recall that there was a recent Al Ewing comic book, likely during the current Final Annihilation event, that stated that the White Hot Room is both inside and outside of the multiverse, but I may misremember the specifics.
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We could always just go with "Low 1-A (current reason), likely 1-A (Proposed Reason)" or something along those lines.
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Can agree with Qawsed's reasons
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We need to find proper evidence for 1-A first. Didn't you all just decide that we only have sufficient evidence for Low 1-A above?
Although if somebody is willing to check through all of the current Last Annihilation issues at read comic online for the information that I mentioned above, that would obviously be appreciated.
Although if somebody is willing to check through all of the current Last Annihilation issues at read comic online for the information that I mentioned above, that would obviously be appreciated.
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You should at least read the scan like isn't saying or implying that the White Hot Room is inside the Mystery, is saying that the above-place, the white hot room, the mystery, is just only thing with different names.
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