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Reality-Fiction difference is not the same as Higher Dimensional difference

if he has reality-fiction interaction, yes
No, it honestly doesn't. Your argument for it is absolutely stupid. You're saying that even Tier 0 realms can't fit in them or whatever, when Tier 0 is, by definition, above dimensional transcendence, and also above regular R>F transcendence.
 
No, it honestly doesn't. Your argument for it is absolutely stupid.
Calling an argument to be stupid is not an argument
You're saying that even Tier 0 realms can't fit in them or whatever, when Tier 0 is, by definition, above dimensional transcendence, and also above regular R>F transcendence.
I mean, yeah, reality fiction encompass even infinites tier 0 hierarchies, while higher dimensional doesnt, and even if I follow ur logic, U LITERALLY PROVED IT LMAO, if u agree that tier 0 is above dimensionality, reality-fiction is above higher-dimensional interaction
 
Yea we don't assume reality>fiction layers are literal in the first place. Because if they are assumed to be literal it would be Tier 11, not Tier 0.

Without further context they are just simple transcendences, especially considering Reality>Fiction interaction in most verses just boils down to "Can see the entire timeline and fate of everyone".

Rarely is Reality>Fiction interaction explored to extreme depths(only in verses like Unwritten, SCP etc)
 
Calling an argument to be stupid is not an argument

I mean, yeah, reality fiction encompass even infinites tier 0 hierarchies, while higher dimensional doesnt, and even if I follow ur logic, U LITERALLY PROVED IT LMAO, if u agree that tier 0 is above dimensionality, reality-fiction is above higher-dimensional interaction
Yes, they can...if the verse properly shows infinite Tier 0 hierarchies lol. This doesn't change the fact that a R>F transcendence doesn't automatically get this tier. I said that R>F transcendences are equal to dimensional transcendences, something that Tier 0 is fundamentally above.
 
Yea we don't assume reality>fiction layers are literal in the first place. Because if they are assumed to be literal it would be Tier 11, not Tier 0.

Without further context they are just simple transcendences, especially considering Reality>Fiction interaction in most verses just boils down to "Can see the entire timeline and fate of everyone".

Rarely is Reality>Fiction interaction explored to extreme depths(only in verses like Unwritten, SCP etc)
Shinza....
 
Yea we don't assume reality>fiction layers are literal in the first place.
which is wrong by the reasons that I explained
Without further context they are just simple transcendences
which allows even basic thing such as humans see tier 0 hierarchies as mere fictional which makes all reality-fiction interaction be tier 0 by defauçt
considering Reality>Fiction interaction in most verses just boils down to "Can see the entire timeline and fate of everyone".
idc to that, then just ignore then ig?
Rarely is Reality>Fiction interaction explored to extreme depths(only in verses like Unwritten, SCP etc)
DB as well
Yes, they can...if the verse properly shows infinite Tier 0 hierarchies lol.
Not needed
 
which is wrong by the reasons that I explained

which allows even basic thing such as humans see tier 0 hierarchies as mere fictional which makes all reality-fiction interaction be tier 0 by defauçt

idc to that, then just ignore then ig?

DB as well

Not needed
You didn't really explain anything other than NLFs over and over again.

Humans...? Bruh...

Dragon Ball doesn't really use R>F that much, if at all.

It honestly is needed, not sure why it wouldn't. It's literally the main reason why we don't use omnipotence on the wiki.
 
You didn't really explain anything other than NLFs over and over again.
I did
Humans...? Bruh...
yes
Dragon Ball doesn't really use R>F that much, if at all.
it does
It honestly is needed, not sure why it wouldn't. It's literally the main reason why we don't use omnipotence on the wiki.
wdym
He made the 1A gojo thread
oh lol, that dude, he is funny
 
which is wrong by the reasons that I explained

which allows even basic thing such as humans see tier 0 hierarchies as mere fictional which makes all reality-fiction interaction be tier 0 by defauçt

idc to that, then just ignore then ig?

DB as well

Not needed
The other thing I wanted to point out is that Humans don't view Tier 0 characters as fiction, they view Tier 11A (and below) characters as fiction. We rate characters as Tier 0 or whatever based on a tiering system that we have created (ie. logic we use to classify them based on strength), so this argument doesn't really work.
 
which is wrong by the reasons that I explaine
Like I said, if you assume the lower Cosmology is literally fiction to the higher one that would just make the lower one Tier 11.

which allows even basic thing such as humans see tier 0 hierarchies as mere fictional which makes all reality-fiction interaction be tier 0 by defauçt
Any kind of transcendence can allow that as long as there are enough heirarchies. This is just pure NLF. You can NLF most things similarly. For example conceptual transcendence transcending the concept of tier 0.
 
The other thing I wanted to point out is that Humans don't view Tier 0 characters as fiction
We do, I can pretty much read them as fiction, argument debunked
What I meant is that your reasoning is literally the same reasoning that people use for omnipotence, which we have completely denied the usage of in this wiki.
omnipotence case is a matter to another thread
Like I said, if you assume the lower Cosmology is literally fiction to the higher one that would just make the lower one Tier 11.
it will make it tier 0 due reasons explained
. This is just pure NLF. You can NLF most things similarly. For example conceptual transcendence transcending the concept of tier 0.
it is not NLF, I already debunked that
 
We do, I can pretty much read them as fiction, argument debunked

omnipotence case is a matter to another thread

it will make it tier 0 due reasons explained

it is not NLF, I already debunked that
I literally just explained what I meant by "we don't view Tier 0 characters as fiction". A true Tier 0 character would view us as fiction, not the other way around. These characters are fundamentally 11A or even lower. We classify them as things like 1B, High 1A, Tier 0, etc. through enforcing our logic into their medium (ie. fiction). This whole argument doesn't work because of the fundamental misunderstanding on how R>F works.
 
It will not due to reasons explained
It is due reasons explained
It is NLF, I already debunked that
it is not NLF, I already debunked that
I literally just explained what I meant by "we don't view Tier 0 characters as fiction". A true Tier 0 character would view us as fiction, not the other way around. These characters are fundamentally 11A or even lower. We classify them as things like 1B, High 1A, Tier 0, etc. through enforcing our logic into their medium (ie. fiction). This whole argument doesn't work because of the fundamental misunderstanding on how R>F works.
Lmao stone wall is funny, I already debunked that argument, see the previous arguments before replying, pls
 
If you say that the lower portion of the Cosmology is literally fictional to the higher one, that would mean it was never real in the first place, and hence only the top layer would be real
Damn, so, humans are too far in tier 0 that even tier 0 beings are just 11-A in our perspective, thats ******* neat, another proof to my thread
 
It is due reasons explained

it is not NLF, I already debunked that

Lmao stone wall is funny, I already debunked that argument, see the previous arguments before replying, pls
You honestly haven't debunked anything, are you sure you're not the wall here? You've been shown the several flaws with your arguments, but have continued to use them as if no contentions have been given. The refutations you gave to our contentions were honestly quite pathetic, and if this is all you have, this thread should just be closed right now.
 
You honestly haven't debunked anything,
I did
are you sure you're not the wall here?
pretty much
You've been shown the several flaws with your arguments, but have continued to use them as if no contentions have been given.
it isnt flaws, it just makes my argument better
. The refutations you gave to our contentions were honestly quite pathetic, and if this is all you have, this thread should just be closed right now.
the refutations are not refutations, but just further proof to my argument
No, humans are 10-B. Fiction is Tier 11
No, humans are tier 0 because they have reality-fiction with tier 0 verses
 
Damn, so, humans are too far in tier 0 that even tier 0 beings are just 11-A in our perspective, thats ******* neat, another proof to my thread
How are you this stubborn? A fictional character is fundamentally 11A. This is just fact at this point. We mark them as Tier 0 through our 3D logic being enforced on them.
 
A fictional character is fundamentally 11A. This is just fact at this point. We mark them as Tier 0 through our 3D logic being enforced on them.
Depend of the character, if he is tier 0 then he is tier 0, and we see it as fiction, we are just further as tier 0
 
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Jiren?
 
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