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Reality-Fiction difference is not the same as Higher Dimensional difference

I was honestly pretty lazy to read 100 comments instead of just commenting, especially since it didn't get yeeted to fun and games

Ignore 90% of my second comment i guess
 
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Delta333 said:
The funniest part is seeing ppl seiously argued with Bern XD
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I genuinely thought he was being serious cause he put this shit into content revision, which is just inappropriate, tbh. However, after the second comment of his/hers, I pretty easily realized that he was just trolling, so I definitely agree with this thread.
 
Tarang123 said:
I genuinely thought he was being serious cause he put this shit into content revision, which is just inappropriate, tbh. However, after the second comment of his/hers, I pretty easily realized that he was just trolling, so I definitely agree with this thread.
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That was done on purpose to garner reactions like that. Which is why my first comment here was troll comment on purpose to point towards that direction.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Well technically speaking, the square on the paper is just as 3-dimensional as you and just as real as you, as everything in this world is made of atoms in 3dimensional space plus time.
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Yeah, since lead of the pencil which is used to draw on paper is still 3D due to lead being made up of 3D atoms but we dont usually go that deep normally.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Well technically speaking, the square on the paper is just as 3-dimensional as you and just as real as you, as everything in this world is made of atoms in 3dimensional space plus time.
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Not exactly, the square itself, as in the physical design is fictional or 2D, the material used to make the square is 3D
 
Tarang123 said:
Not exactly, the square itself, as in the physical design is fictional or 2D, the material used to make the square is 3D
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Yeah, square is 2D but square created in 3D paper would be made up of 3D material and not purely 2D in essence.
 
My_area said:
Yeah, square is 2D but square created in 3D paper would be made up of 3D material and not purely 2D in essence.
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Yes, that's how we interact with lower dimensional objects because of the disconnection between us. The square itself is fundamentally 2D, it's just that we can only interact with it through 3D mediums like a pencil/pen, paper, etc.
 
Tarang123 said:
Yes, that's how we interact with lower dimensional objects because of the disconnection between us. The square itself is fundamentally 2D, it's just that we can only interact with it through 3D mediums like a pencil/pen, paper, etc.
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Though square in this case is made by 3D pencil on a 3D paper so its not purely a "2D square" because the square drawn in the paper would be made of led which is made up of 3D particles.
 
My_area said:
Yeah, since lead of the pencil which is used to draw on paper is still 3D due to lead being made up of 3D atoms but we dont usually go that deep normally.
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Well, to me, if you're going to use real world arguments to support something, the real word argument has to be correct.

Tarang123 said:
Not exactly, the square itself, as in the physical design is fictional or 2D, the material used to make the square is 3D
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It doesn't make sense for you to say the design of a square is fictional. Squares are real. And the design is "2 dimensional", but only because we decided that things with no volume, just length and width, are two dimensional. The square is two dimensional in the same sense that Jackson's Pollock's Number 5 is abstract. Words we created to describe things we came up with. In reality, there is no such thing as 2D space, at least no evidence or observation of such space existing.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Well, to me, if you're going to use real world arguments to support something, the real word argument has to be correct.


It doesn't make sense for you to say the design of a square is fictional. Squares are real. And the design is "2 dimensional", but only because we decided that things with no volume, just length and width, are two dimensional. The square is two dimensional in the same sense that Jackson's Pollock's Number 5 is abstract. Words we created to describe things we came up with. In reality, there is no such thing as 2D space, at least no evidence or observation of such space existing.
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Well, no. The square itself is 2D, this much is accepted. The fact that it's drawn by 3D objects or even on a 3D object is absolutely irrelevant as it's the only way we can interact with said lower dimensional object. Otherwise, it's simply not possible.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Well, to me, if you're going to use real world arguments to support something, the real word argument has to be correct.
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Thats true, but its just that certain things in real life have reasons based on common understanding which can differ from reasons found if analyzed in great depth or attempt to view this topic very scientifically.
 
Personally I think a lot of this reality-fiction thing is hot air sometimes.

Unless the "real" character interacts with the "fictional" character and the fictional character retains their in-verse ability and it shown that the real character is unaffected by it and above it, then I can see the higher tier. But if that's not the case, then it's just unquantifiable.

"Character A sees Character B as fiction" okay? There are many examples where a "fictional" character interacts with "real" character and they view that fictional characters as fiction and they are not superior or above them in anyway and interact with them like normal peers.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
"Character A sees Character B as fiction" okay? There are many examples where a "fictional" character interacts with "real" character and they view that fictional characters as fiction and they are not superior or above them in anyway and interact with them like normal peers.
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Thats interesting to say at the very least. I never honestly heard or saw a example of that.
 
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