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[FinePoint]

But then wouldn't all humans be 10-A what?

Human muscle structure is very... uh, whatever the opposite of dense is.
Even chimps half your size would be much much stronger than you.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Also, is that your stealthy way to say you agree with 10-A chimps?

That is. I absolutely agree with 10-A chimps, especially looking at the other animals that we place in 10-A and 9-C

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I mean the Titanoboa killed giant crocodiles so that stills Wall level

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

But then wouldn't all humans be 10-A what?

Armor basically hit it on the head but I'll explain my reasoning a bit further.

Human muscles are designed for dexterity. When it comes to fine motor movements, we are the champions of the animal kingdom. With the possible exception of cephalopods, no animal can perform fine, controlled movements like an ape, and we are the best of all apes. However, there is a downside. Because our muscles allow fine, controlled movements, they don't have the density and power we see elsewhere in the animal kingdom. Add to that that most humans live a remarkably cushy lifestyle compared to your average wild animal, and it can be seen why we simply don't have the strength to match animals that are even half of our size.

There's no way something that's 20 kg should be 10-B. Keep in mind 10-C is a relatively large tier, it doesn't necessarily have to be 3 kg animals and below.

Female leopards and wolves are 23 kg. Barracuda are 24 kg. Great Pacific Octopi are 10 kg in small specimens. Boa constrictors are 15 kg.

 

[Armorchompy]

Anyway, is anything else controversial? Or can I start applying this stuff? Oh also Golden Eagles have body control for... "Wing Protrusion", whatever that is

 

[Armorchompy]

I mean the Titanoboa killed giant crocodiles so that stills Wall level

It did so by choking them, that's LS, not AP. Still, he's gonna be 9-B. On the subject of that, though...

Anaconda

• Attack Potency - It's enough to actually crush bones and ribs, and crack a femur. This is why I refuse at the Titanoboa being downgraded, as it is almost 4.5 stronger than this

That's 9-C. TitBoa was much bigger so 9-B is probably fine but Idk if this is enough for the Anaconda.

 

[LightReinh12345]

Fair enough, but Cheetahs don't usually tackle targets directly, do they? I'm still very iffy on scaling that to their normal, non-running physical blows. As for converting watts to energy, a racehorse is obviously far stronger than a cheetah or a greyhound, they they produce more watts than him, you'll understand why I don't wanna use those to get ratings at all.

I do think I got too aggressive there though, apologies for that.

Do u know Cheetahs can kill Ostrich & similar types of birds?! Like a Cheetah easily kills an Ostrich in Kgalagadi Transfronteir Park
Anyway do u know Ostrich sized birds such as Giant Rhea & Ostrich with their claws can disembowel human with one blow
: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-loose-quiet-english-countryside-9262409.html
Ostrich kicks can kill a human easily also mentioned in National Geographic Channel

 

[Armorchompy]

Do u know Cheetahs can kill Ostrich & similar types of birds?! Like a Cheetah easily kills an Ostrich in Kgalagadi Transfronteir Park
Anyway do u know Ostrich sized birds such as Giant Rhea & Ostrich with their claws can disembowel human with one blow
: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-loose-quiet-english-countryside-9262409.html
Ostrich kicks can kill a human easily also mentioned in National Geographic Channel

They can kill them but they're physically a lot weaker than them, right? Scaling that way would bring every big predator to 9-B by virtue of killing prey of that strength, which we agreed not to do.

 

[LightReinh12345]

They can kill them but they're physically a lot weaker than them, right? Scaling that way would bring every big predator to 9-B by virtue of killing prey of that strength, which we agreed not to do.

Who are physically weaker than them Cheetah?!? Yes but not by that much what u are thinking
Cheetah on many ocasions fought with ostrich who which can disembowel humans in one Shot now ostrich kicks can kill Cheetahs I know that but their is this gap between humans & Cheetahs
Don't see any humans (other than peak Humans) physically beating a cheetah
I am not arguing killing a large animal makes a predator 9-B though I will later bring more evidences about cheetah's physiology
By the way Shouldn't Homo habilis be 10-A with their predator physiology & fitness in the wild
Though it can be 10-B as well

 

[Armorchompy]

I mean, 10-A is fine, 9-C is what I had issues with for HH.

 

[LightReinh12345]

I mean, 10-A is fine, 9-C is what I had issues with for HH.

I agree with that they shouldn't be 9-C cause they are probably in groups attacking few Predators
I don't think they can fight a predator such as Jackal one on one

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Nothing else is controversial in my mind. If those feats for the anaconda place them at 9-C, then I am willing to accept that.

At some point in the future, I might try and pull together some calculations that actually give tiers to specific pascals of pressure, seeing as we are eyeballing it right now.

 

[Armorchompy]

Then unless anyone disagrees, I'll apply everything, with the exception of Cheetah stuff. What's your take on that?

 

[Nega0724]

I’m late coming to this thread but, considering the fact that Bruce Lee is considered to be physically peak human even though he’s about the size of an average human, I don’t think we should consider human-sized like chimps for example to be automatically 10-A just because of this.

 

[Armorchompy]

I’m late coming to this thread but, considering the fact that Bruce Lee is considered to be physically peak human even though he’s about the size of an average human, I don’t think we should consider human-sized like chimps for example to be automatically 10-A just because of this.

Chimpanzees are half the weight of an average dude, and typically do not know karate. We're making them 10-A because they have no actual reasons for 9-C.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Chimpanzees are half the weight of an average dude, and typically do not know karate. We're making them 10-A because they have no actual reasons for 9-C.

Indeed, chimpanzees have been shown to be about four times as strong as humans comparable in size, according to evolutionary biologist Alan Walker

 

[Armorchompy]

Indeed, chimpanzees have been shown to be about four times as strong as humans comparable in size, according to evolutionary biologist Alan Walker

Have you read the OP? Not only has that study been contested, but it says comparable in size. Chimps are usually a fair bit lighter than humans, around 50 kg on average. I guess if you're scrawny, a chimp will be x4 as strong as you. But here's the thing, if you multiply the average 10-B rating (70 joules) by four, you don't reach 9-C (280 joules, while baseline 9-C is 300 joules)

 

[Nega0724]

A large male chimpanzee can weigh up 140 pounds which I’m pretty sure is about close to the weight of an average human. Also, considering the fact that a chimp can crack a windshield of a car with their bare hands and can shrug off being bludgeoned over the head with a shovel, wouldn’t that put them at 9-C?

 

[Armorchompy]

Just because the peak of a shovel strike is 9-C doesn't mean everyone's gonna hit that hard, if you get in a dangerous and scary situation odds are you're not gonna swing as well as you could. As for the windshield, shattering it was calculated as 9-C, I doubt cracking it is anywhere near that.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Have you read the OP? Not only has that study been contested, but it says comparable in size. Chimps are usually a fair bit lighter than humans, around 50 kg on average. I guess if you're scrawny, a chimp will be x4 as strong as you. But here's the thing, if you multiply the average 10-B rating (70 joules) by four, you don't reach 9-C (280 joules, while baseline 9-C is 300 joules)

Eh... I wanted to share this here to solve doubts dude

 

[Armorchompy]

Oh, my bad lol

 

[Nega0724]

I remembered reading somewhere about a chimp attack that I believed happened in Sierra Leone where a chimp named Bruno attacked some tourists and was able to smash through a car window.

Here’s the link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/undert...o-a-chimpanzees-tale-of-tragedy-and-hope/amp/

 

[Armorchompy]

This chimpanzee was way bigger than the average, the article itself points it out. Even then, it might have been done with multiple blows.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Wouldnt the 7 meters and above Anacondas be 9-B?

 

[Nega0724]

Since the article said that the chimp charged and then smashed one of the car’s windows, it sounds to me that the chimp likely did it with one attack.

 

[Armorchompy]

Since the article said that the chimp charged and then smashed one of the car’s windows, it sounds to me that the chimp likely did it with one attack.

Maybe, but we can't tell for sure. Either way, that guy was a giant by chimp standards (nevermind that considering the location and the time this happened, the windshield was likely a lot flimsier than modern ones).

 

[Armorchompy]

Wouldnt the 7 meters and above Anacondas be 9-B?

I mean, we don't really have any feats for them- I don't really know how big they have to be to break bones.

 

[Nega0724]

With anacondas, personally, I’m inclined to say that the males should at least be 9-C since they’re much smaller than the females.

 

[Armorchompy]

Yeah. Well, relatively.

 

[Nega0724]

Also, do you think that, for characters or animals that are Street Level+, they should be rated as 9-C+ instead of just 9-C since not doing that would imply that they’re on the same level as Street Level beings which is clearly not the case?

 

[Armorchompy]

No, not really. That's already shown in the AP section, and others.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I mean, we don't really have any feats for them- I don't really know how big they have to be to break bones.

Large Anacondas can ATE large animals like Orinoco Crocodiles.

And If I'm correct a 3 meters Anaconda can already crush bones.

 

[Armorchompy]

I mean, eating something isn't really AP the way they do it, first they kill them and then slowly ingest them.

 

[Armorchompy]

anyone know what arthropleura's Enhanced Senses come from?

 

[Armorchompy]

Edited all prehistoric and invertebrate pages

 

[Nega0724]

Looking at the real life profile, I personally think the Emperor penguin’s durability needs an upgrade seeing that they’re covered in blubber and that they’re able to survive this...

 

[Armorchompy]

1) The leopard seal isn't going for the kill rn, it's carrying the penguin away.

2) Scaling off piercing damage would be stupid considering we avoid tiering specifically to avoid scaling off of it.

3) The blubber just means it's too thick to penetrate in one bite, doesn't mean it would survive a sledgehammer to the back

 

[Nega0724]

I guess that makes sense. I also want to know if the prehistoric animals Argentavis and Anthropornis are getting their own profiles since I remembered someone mentioning it in another thread a while ago?

 

[Armorchompy]

I don't have any interest in making them, if anyone wants to they're free to.

 

[Nega0724]

Okay then. I also feel like putting both Giant and Colossal squids at Street level+ is quite low considering their size and the fact that both species can leave permanent scars on sperm whales who are both huge and have very thick hides.