[Re:Zero] Regulus Corneas Revamp

[Phsccarvalho]

Honestly, I'd prefer if it was listed as Vector Manipulation based on what I have seen of it and what little actual relevant explanation it has

Spoiler: off CRT

Law hax doesn't already cover this?

Divine protections are accepted as "a set rule by which the world operates", I think that already covers the arrow thing, right? Like, "by the law by which the world operates projectiles will deflect the guy", the vector thing doesn't seem to be necessary.

 

[Zabazab]

(Won't retread ground, also no time to lol)

Getting knocked around is different from getting DE spawned to your mansion while you have actively been trying to kill the person doing it and have the personality of regulus in which you are violently annoyed by them first telling you what to do and doing something we all know sets you off - specifically interrupting you.

You first tried to claim that leading up to and in the moment Pandora removed Regulus, his instinct actually wasn't even trying to kill her at all (Instead he wanted to argue) but that was clearly false in every way seeing as how he literally eviscerated her the moment she tried to tell him what to do and started complaining about how she kept coming back.

Volume 19 Chapter 1 Section 2, Regulus after being interrupted by Reinhard's swordflash rants a bit, gets interrupted by Subaru whipping his face, Regulus angrily moves to kill him and Reinhard kicks him away— Regulus didn't kill the impact despite the fact that he can. That's just Bishop Corneas.

Losing Little King only meant that he was back to his time limited use of Lions heart where he has to turn it off and on again or he'll die.

Volume 19 Chapter 6 Section 2, Regulus addresses the fact that he has poor control due to losing Little King right after he realizes he can't stop his momentum into the earth.

Divine protections are accepted as "a set rule by which the world operates"

DPs don't manipulate laws, only Authorities do. Just the existence of DPs is a law.

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

Volume 19 Chapter 1 Section 2, Regulus after being interrupted by Reinhard's swordflash rants a bit, gets interrupted by Subaru whipping his face, Regulus angrily moves to kill him and Reinhard kicks him away— Regulus didn't kill the impact despite the fact that he can. That's just Bishop Corneas.

Again getting harmlessly knocked around or hit is different from getting set home when you directly just killed the person for even just telling you to do that.

In Pandora's instance it makes 0 sense for him to let her send him home when he doesn't want to.

Regulus can't kill impact arbitrarily when he's already let it affect him, that much is clear from how he died.

Volume 19 Chapter 6 Section 2, Regulus addresses the fact that he has poor control due to losing Little King right after he realizes he can't stop his momentum into the earth.

Aight I read it again and the only reason Regulus couldn't stop his momentum was because he would ordinarily have done that by making the things he interacts with invulnerable via Lions heart (In this case when smashed into the ground he would have made it invulnerable thus it wouldn't have been destroyed by the momentum & thus he would have stopped) but in relation to little king being removed, without it he had to manually control Lion heart making it difficult to affect things beyond his body.

Essentially the inability to stop his momentum was because he can't easily extend the effect beyond his body not that the effect on his body had changed at all. Seems like it actually stops his momentum by making other things invulnerable alongside his body so he doesn't just pass through them but since he can't now he couldn't stop.

Also the implication that without little king he only couldn't delete the pre-existing momentum just hampers your argument more because the statement about other bound by such concepts couldn't affect him comes from that part of the text and is specifically talking about him without little king.... Making the statement even more flowery in comparison.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Yeah so my point still stands, it's mostly an ability he's using via timestop to make himself immune to any forms of damage in his series and not literally his existence is beyond cause and effect in general. Unless there's some specific instances where we allow type 4 acausality via a random ability and not something that's tied to the existence of a character, I don't really see type 4 from it. It just sounds like he has some resistances to whatever abilities are affecting him in the series.

He himself does not resist anything as he is a normal human. He becomes uninteractable to the abilities and powers of other people in the verse which stops them affecting him at all. This includes soul/mind stuff as well along with concepts, which is why we are pushing for acausality

On the other hand, The main point is to index his ability more accurately and at this time his profile having time stop does not cover his full capacity at all.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Again getting harmlessly knocked around or hit is different from getting set home when you directly just killed the person for even just telling you to do that.

In Pandora's instance it makes 0 sense for him to let her send him home when he doesn't want to.

From my interpretation of what zab has said, He has to actively activate his authorities against certain things which would also include Pandora's authority
Proving his anti feats is difficult because of this since you would have to prove he was actively defending against the ability in the first place (which cannot be proven in pandora's case)

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Wouldnt this just further prove that he is unaffected by concepts making interaction difficult for him on a regular basis?

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

From my interpretation of what zab has said, He has to actively activate his authorities against certain things which would also include Pandora's authority

There is not a single statement saying he has to do that for Pandora's Authority at all. That's my point.

Like many thing my here this is an assumption made with 0 evidence, out of necessity because it is required to not have his chance at Acausality instantly irrelevant.

My point is that it is a claim with 0 evidence despite the burden off proof squarely being on the people making it.

The claim is that Regulus is purposely relaxing or not actively utilizing some aspect of his Authority that would block Pandora's own Authority for which there is no statement of him saying as much, no actual statement of her acknowledging such a situation being the case, no statement expressing that he is outright capable of blocking her authority and thus no proof.

Literally all I'm asking for is you providing actual proof for a claim you are making but since we both know none exists you are utterly unable to.

It doesn't even make any lick of sense on its own because the circumstances in which the exchange occurs is when he's repeatedly reducing her to a bloody pulp for telling him what to do while getting more annoyed that she keeps coming back yet for some reason won't just switch on the "ignore Pandora's authority" button.

Even the argument of Regulus getting punted around other times won't add up in the Pandora Situation because there's a difference between getting harmlessly hit around within range of your goal and getting sent home completely away from what you were currently by the very person he's extremely angry at for even telling him that.

Proving his anti feats is difficult because of this since you would have to prove he was actively defending against the ability in the first place (which cannot be proven in pandora's case)

It's difficult for you to disprove the anti feat because you are making a claim with no evidence.

You're argument has literally just making a burden of proof fallacy

Person A: "Ghosts exist."
Person B: "Do you have any evidence?"
Person A: "No, but you can't prove they don’t exist!"

Is equivalent to

Person A: "Regulus' Authority would block Pandora but he's choosing not to do that."
Person B: "Do you have any evidence?"
Person A: "No, but you can't prove he isn't doing that!"

The burden of proof to the claim is on he who makes the claim but no such proof exists so your just retorting with fallacies.

Wouldnt this just further prove that he is unaffected by concepts making interaction difficult for him on a regular basis?

No it would directly prove the opposite by showing even further how flowery the claim of "All Concepts" are if ******* momentum can't be stopped without a workaround of making what he smashes into also invulnerable

Though it's wholly unnecessary because the sentence about concepts is directly surrounded by more context which says word for word that it's just another way of saying immune to physical phenomena while all the examples listed in relation to that statement are in of themselves physical phenomena already

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

He himself does not resist anything as he is a normal human. He becomes uninteractable to the abilities and powers of other people in the verse which stops them affecting him at all. This includes soul/mind stuff as well along with concepts, which is why we are pushing for acausality

Again all Timestop indexed on the wiki is assumed to generally affects souls/minds unless stated otherwise, if it didn't every incorporeal being on the wiki would have time manipulation resistance but no such standard exists

The statement about concepts is completely overblown in importance because it is entirely reliant on nothing more than willful ignorance while shutting off your capacity to read with context in mind.

This is literally how you expect people to read into the statement -

If I said "I escaped from society by living in the wilderness so I'm removed from all civic responsibilities. In other words, I've reached the ultimate form of freedom from Laws"... "Freed from the taxation, court hearings and bill payments I obtained the ultimate power."

You wouldn't sit here and tell me that it makes even an once of sense to ignore all the context surrounding the statement - "In other words, I've reached the ultimate form of freedom from Laws" but that's essentially what you are attempting to argue.

You're entire argument relies on us basically crossing out all parts of that statement besides the singular mention of "concepts" and not putting that sentence in context to all other sentences surrounding it, basically pretending the full statement looks like this:

"The core of Regulus's power was to apply time-stoppage to his body, making him immune to effects from all physical phenomena[Please ignore this]. In other words [Definitely ignore this], it was the greatest/ultimate form of liberation/freedom from all concepts [Yes, only this exists]. Freed from the laws of Gravity, air resistance and inertia regulus obtained ultimate power[Also ignore this too]"

It's literally just asking people to cut out all context surrounding the word "Concept" and take that alone as the most important/relevant part of the statement as to describe Regulus' Authority, when it's literally said to just be another way to express the idea of being immune to physical phenomena.

On the other hand, The main point is to index his ability more accurately and at this time his profile having time stop does not cover his full capacity at all.

It covers it very well enough, Saying the implementation of Type 4 or 5 acausality is an attempt at "accuracy" is frankly quite laughable

 

[ShadeyD]

What does this mean for Pandora's causality manip affecting him?

 

[VortechsTG]

What does this mean for Pandora's causality manip affecting him?

Nothing, because there are like seven layers of vagueness there and, frankly, Pandora probably shouldn't even have a page.

 

[Zabazab]

What does this mean for Pandora's causality manip affecting him?

No change either way.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

I can agree with type four and most likely a resistance to causality manipulation but I’m not seeing type 5. The toggle aspect also makes less sense.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Tired of this being in the slammer for so long

Lets get a conclusion

Oh and to add on to Zab:

They had just heard it from Clind’s mouth, but both Petra and “Subaru” were familiar with the word “Authority” and its more sinister significance. It was a word that had been uttered by the Sin Archbishop of Sloth, and by the Witch of Greed who slumbered in her tomb .The manifestation of a formidable right which allowed one to interfere with the nature of this world, to overturn concepts, to selfishly paint over those laws.

If it wasnt any clearer, Tappei dropped this again.

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

Tired of this being in the slammer for so long

Lets get a conclusion

Oh and to add on to Zab:




If it wasnt any clearer, Tappei dropped this again.

Aight, not much really changes with it, if it's to believe the listed things are supposed to be something relevant to all Authority - seeing as how stuff like making an invisible hand is an authority, it would they wouldn't get much more than limited Type 3 CM & limited law manipulation, non of which changes much in the Regulus discussion since these aren't what's being pushed for on this thread.

Beyond that still, it's vague at best and not helpful for what is being argued for in this thread. The point of this Thread is trying to pass that the statements of Regulus ignoring laws/concepts actually applies to all laws and concepts thus the invulnerability he has is a result of that rather than only just time stop like they say (despite the statement being mostly vague except for the parts of them that specify physical laws/phenomena and general hyperbole before specifics), so for this statement which is relevant to all Authority to be relevant here it would require that all authorities had the same invulnerability as Regulus which clearly isn't the case.

 

[Zabazab]

Oh and to add on to Zab:

It doesn't say much in regards to Lion's Heart specifically. Just further law manip statements for all Authorities, although concept slop in relation to Authorities generally is new. It all alligns with the loredrop that Authorities (when used by a compatible Witch Factor host) are actually the official right to interfere with the world's ways by Od Lagna itself.

 

[FinePoint]

This seems more like a very powerful version of Invulnerability which also protects against concepts/laws to me.
To give him acausality would imply he simply exists in a state unbound by causality, which is seemingly not true, just that he selectively 'ignores' it.

That said, the wording of invulnerability only implies normal attacks. So I'm sort of stuck between two abilities which don't exactly fit

So, I'd prefer Invulnerability + a list of resistances, but I wouldn't be opposed to something like "Selective Acausality (Type 4)" with a sufficient explanation of how it's toggled and such.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

This seems more like a very powerful version of Invulnerability which also protects against concepts/laws to me.
To give him acausality would imply he simply exists in a state unbound by causality, which is seemingly not true, just that he selectively 'ignores' it.

That said, the wording of invulnerability only implies normal attacks. So I'm sort of stuck between two abilities which don't exactly fit

So, I'd prefer Invulnerability + a list of resistances, but I wouldn't be opposed to something like "Selective Acausality (Type 4)" with a sufficient explanation of how it's toggled and such.

 

[Zabazab]

Crossed out part of the OP on account of a different CRT making it redundant.

 

[Trxyway]

Remove me from Neurtral and add me to agree

 

[Vietthai96]

I disagree with both Aca 4 and 5, this is just powerful application of time hax rather than acausality. Regulus is still subjected to normal causality; he isn't operating on a different causality system to get type 4 or beyond it to the point of immutable and uninteractable to get type 5. He is still subjected to causality which is time, he just stopped the flow, thus stopped the change in the cause-and-effect system, thus make him unable to experience change, if time is stopped, then nothing will flow from the past to the future, cause and effect will stand still. It's very simple

 

[Zabazab]

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Thank you. Since 3 mods with voting rights expressed issues with type 4, 5, or both, how's this instead?

• Time Stop & Invulnerability (Regulus' Lion's Heart allows him to stop the time of himself and objects,[6] granting them invincibility. With his time stopped, Regulus is unable to experience change.[6] Lion's Heart makes Regulus immune to effects from all physical phenomena, granting him the ultimate liberation from all concepts.[6] This extends beyond the physical, as Shamak which manipulates the senses[7] doesn't work on him, and he was unaffected while interacting with[7] Sirius, whose Authority manipulates the soul itself and activates by merely knowing she exists. Regulus, if he so chooses, can ignore all of the world's laws, making those who are bound by concepts no match for him[8])

 

[VortechsTG]

Alright, well if we really aren't going to give him acausality he needs to have layers at the very minimum.

 

[HelloThere1089]

Regular Cornyass

 

[Wesker018]

Regular Cornyass

 

[Phoenks]

I disagree with both Aca 4 and 5, this is just powerful application of time hax rather than acausality. Regulus is still subjected to normal causality; he isn't operating on a different causality system to get type 4 or beyond it to the point of immutable and uninteractable to get type 5. He is still subjected to causality which is time, he just stopped the flow, thus stopped the change in the cause-and-effect system, thus make him unable to experience change, if time is stopped, then nothing will flow from the past to the future, cause and effect will stand still. It's very simple

If his time is stopped yet he is still acting, then it necessitates that Regulus operates by some separate system.

If I perform time stop on a person, they shouldn't be able to move because their stream of time has completely paused.

Yet Regulus ignores that factor.

How do you explain that?

 

[VortechsTG]

If his time is stopped yet he is still acting, then it necessitates that Regulus operates by some separate system.

If I perform time stop on a person, they shouldn't be able to move because their stream of time has completely paused.

Yet Regulus ignores that factor.

How do you explain that?

And also how do you explain him just boomeranging back to Earth if he's thrown into space "because he's invincible."

 

[Vietthai96]

If his time is stopped yet he is still acting, then it necessitates that Regulus operates by some separate system.

If I perform time stop on a person, they shouldn't be able to move because their stream of time has completely paused.

Yet Regulus ignores that factor.

How do you explain that?

We have fiction where someone get timestopped and still being interacted, either get a punch or a kick or whatever it is. Regulus stopped his personal flow of time, but not all, so he could be able to act normally, simple like that, and time still flow in the world at large, so in a sense, he himself still subjected to the flow, just he can do something to his personal flow

 

[Arkenis]

I completely disagree, the main reasoning brought up here are not different from everything already discussed in the downgrade thread prior but I will save that for the end of this post as for now I need to get at the more pressing issues pertain to the simple fact that the main new scan on this thread is predicated on mixing and matching completely different translations to stitch together a desirable whole.

Let me explain further, take the summary given for Regulus's new acausality status

The first scan "With his time stopped, Regulus is unable to experience change." comes from the Official volume Release [Which can be found here on pages 156-157, for convenience] - To confirm that this site is indeed the official translation you can just click on the sample of the Prologue offered on the Amazon page for the book which matches that of the site i linked. [This point was already repeatedly mentioned by me in the downgrade repeatedly - Here, Here, Here etc.]

While the Second scan "Lion's Heart makes Regulus immune to effects from all physical phenomena, granting him the ultimate liberation from all concepts." is completely different in the Official Volume, as it does not mention concepts in the same context at all there in any capacity:

In this case the translation change that is most relevant is the glaring addition of talking about concepts in general more so as a way to describ things that would hold him back.

The Third Scan, "can ignore all of the world's laws, making those who are bound by concepts no match for him." is also completely different from the actual official volume:

As you can see, the difference is again stark and just as subtle, the translation is basically using a word in a way that it wasn't before it now changed the context under which the word "Concept" was used. In OP's version it reads as Regulus talking about being bound by concepts in general while the official can be more clearly taken as not actually relating to concepts as are relevant for the Wiki which is exactly what was argued in the downgrade thread

I have absolutely no clue where OP pulled these scans from in the first place but I can atleast state the following

1. The use of these "new scans" is clearly an attempt to bypass addressing any arguments related to the fact that in the prior downgrade thread the Officially Translated scans was used [Here]
2. OP is more than likely intentionally replacing the Official Translations to strengthen their argument somewhat and they clearly knew about the Official Translations prior to doing this [The proof of this being that they themselves took part in the downgrade thread which contained the official scans]
3. OP clearly intentionally mixing & matching completely different translations to weave a desired argument from the sum of their parts [Proof being that they used a mix of both the official and this unsourced translation rather than using one source or even telling anyone in the threads Original Post that this was done]
4. The Official Translation obviously takes precedence over an unofficial, randomly sourced translation that might as well be made up
5. If these Unofficial Translations are more accurate than the official that would require the OP to provide details on exactly where they sourced them from alongside the full raw translation for each of the scans so that a translation helper to verify it
6. If these Unoffical Translations are actually more accurate then the entire Re:Zero Verse on the wiki might as well be taken down temporarily to have supporters recreate the profiles using verified scans from the new translation (each raw verified by translations helpers) so that the supposedly incorrect Official Translation which all the profiles are built upon currently can be phased out.

Now moving on from the translation issue I'll get to the actual arguments presented while just linking to the downgrade thread where certain repeated arguments are made (Ignoring any scans which come from the undisclosed translation)


[This point was already repeatedly mentioned by me in the downgrade repeatedly - Here, Here, Here etc.]. It's nothing new so it shouldn't be relevant but even besides that:

Being unable to experience change is a result of him being stopped in time, literally everything stopped in time in such a way that it is rendered invulnerable does not experience change... That isn't a factor in granting Acausality at all because it's just a normal function of being stopped in time. Regulus himself clearly explains that the fact he experiences "No Change" is just a factor of how the time stop works

There is a variance in how Timestop powers are portrayed in general in fiction, being that there are verses in which a Timestop ability makes it so the objects affected can be influenced [Such as Sho Kusakabe from Fire Force] and others where they cannot [Such as Ziel from the Willverse and Glaistig Uaine from Parahumans].

To put it simply not only is it already standard for certain time stop powers to make objects not experience change but regulus himself points out that the reason he doesn't experience change is simply a product of being timestopped rather than something to do with being outside or unaffected by causality as a whole.

Hell all it takes is just reading the whole scan and it becomes clear that the single part about "no change" is just him explaining what would naturally occur when you are made Invulnerability as a result of time stop

The actual official scan of this doesn't have anything to do with concepts in that general way and it was addressed in the downgrade thread already.

The actual scan is different and this was already addressed in the downgrade thread [Here specifically for the concept bit & in the main Original Post for the law bit]

This isn't particularly relevant for acausality Type 4 or 5 and I was even the one that brought it up in the first thread [Here]

This is again, not relevant to acausality Type 4 or 5 - Different forms of Timestop can vary from verse to verse and even within the same verse depending on the mechanics (I brought up Ziel as an example of a character using Timestop that makes things invulnerable, in his same verse there are characters that use timestops without these effects not of which is relevant to the discussion)

This topic in of itself already came up in the last downgrade thread and I had input on that too



The concept part is bunk as the first scan is an unofficial translation of unknown origin where as the official has no mention of concepts in such a general manner (still listing just physical phenomena) while the second scan mentioning concepts if read in basic English is not using the word as it would be applicable to concepts relevant to wiki standards [As said in the downgrade thread here].

It's already been discussed in the downgrade threads that the only "Rules"/"Laws" relevant to Regulus's abilities are those of physical laws seeing as how they are the only ones he mentions when going into any degree of detail about the specifics and the assumption that he ignores either the laws of causality or fate are nothing but baseless assumptions made on overblowing vague statements which only describe physical laws.

Including how in the downgrade thread itself I pointed out that when his authority was turned off it expressely stated that the laws of physics were restored [Here]


Furthermore, as mentioned in the downgrade thread he blatantly doesn't ignore either fate or causality:

Basically he's directly shown affected by both Precog & causality manipulation [Specifically Causality Manipulation that operates on altering the world itself which wouldn't work if he was either unbound by the conventional causality system of the world (Relevant for Acausality type 4) or causality systems as a whole (Relevant for Acausality Type 5)]

To get a few repeat arguments out of the way early for Pandora


and for the Gospel



All in all I still completely disagree with regulus having any form of acausality

 

[Wesker018]

idk about Aca 4 but i defintely disagree with Aca 5.

Type 5: Causality Transcendence: Characters with this type of Acausality are completely independent of cause and effect, existing outside causality. Characters of this nature require evidence of being unable to be changed by any effect that relies on a system of causality, meaning that interacting with them normally is impossible.

In this case, the dude isn’t actually “Impossible to interact with” or “unperceivable.” Sure, his body can’t be damaged and doesn’t suffer changes while time is stopped, but he still obeys cause and effect in some ways. For example, they can see and touch him, and when reinhard kicked him, even if he took no damage, he was still sent flying:

there are more, like when emilia also was able to "hit" him with his Ice or whetever shenigans and push him into the ground.

“I punch/kick you → You fly” = cause and effect.

another is:

“Reinhard touch him → Feel his heart doesn't beat” = cause and effect.

A true Acausality 5 should mean being unperceivable and uninteractable, you shouldn’t even be able to see or touch them at all, like they shouldnt exist in your perspective. Not just be there but unable to get harm.

Also what glassman said:

This sounds more like some specific invulnerability from his time stop rather than him actually existing beyond any forms of cause and effect. If it was type 5 Acausality it would be specifically tied to his existence being unchangeable as a result of being beyond cause and effect, most of this is just describing a timestop move that lets him be immune to any forms of damage in his world, you remove the timestop and he's just someone who's still under the rules of cause and effect.

Yeah so my point still stands, it's mostly an ability he's using via timestop to make himself immune to any forms of damage in his series and not literally his existence is beyond cause and effect in general. Unless there's some specific instances where we allow type 4 acausality via a random ability and not something that's tied to the existence of a character, I don't really see type 4 from it. It just sounds like he has some resistances to whatever abilities are affecting him in the series.

if there is no mention of him being changable and uniteractable with the direct reason being existing beyond all cause-effect, then gg.


i think Zabazab conclusion is the best way to go (Time Stop & Invulnerability)

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

idk about Aca 4 but i defintely disagree with Aca 5.



In this case, the dude isn’t actually “Impossible to interact with” or “unperceivable.” Sure, his body can’t be damaged and doesn’t suffer changes while time is stopped, but he still obeys cause and effect in some ways. For example, they can see and touch him, and when reinhard kicked him, even if he took no damage, he was still sent flying:

there are more, like when emilia also was able to "hit" him with his Ice or whetever shenigans and push him into the ground.

“I punch/kick you → You fly” = cause and effect.

another is:

“Reinhard touch him → Feel his heart doesn't beat” = cause and effect.

A true Acausality 5 should mean being unperceivable and uninteractable, you shouldn’t even be able to see or touch them at all, like they shouldnt exist in your perspective. Not just be there but unable to get harm.

Also what glassman said:



if there is no mention of him being changable and uniteractable with the direct reason being existing beyond all cause-effect, then gg.


i think Zabazab conclusion is the best way to go (Time Stop & Invulnerability)

Actually this is moreso him choosing to be moved, hit etc.


There were times in the novel where Reinhard suddenly could not move him, same happened in petelgeuse vs Regulus where at the beginning of their fight he was being flung around but out of nowhere stopped moving and after that Petelgeuse was unable to move him again.

This is clearly just him consciously choosing to do so or not

 

[Vietthai96]

Pandora's causality works on Regelus

So eh......

 

[VortechsTG]

I feel like Pandora is just fundamentally a bad example because we don't know what she even actually does and she probably has multiple layers to everything she can do.

 

[Arkenis]

Does layers matter for Aca5?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

As Vortech said, Pandora is a big question mark. We dont even know if her ability is reality manipulation or causality manipulation or smth else entirely, it could be smth much more abstract with her too since the vainglory factor has been said to be a "special WF" in the recent arc

 

[Arkenis]

It being reality manip or cau doesn't change that it working on Corn is still an anti-feat for Aca5. And does something being more abstract mean it can interact with Aca5?

 

[Dereck03]

It being reality manip or cau doesn't change that it working on Corn is still an anti-feat for Aca5. And does something being more abstract mean it can interact with Aca5?

Pretty much this, this is a big anti feat for ACA 5 in the first place, not knowing what does Pandora's ability does doesn't disprove that the feat is listed as causality manipulation on her profile nor the feat itself, so yeah, ACA 5 is a nonono.

 

[Vietthai96]

Also Aca 5 require you to transcend causality first iirc, just simply timestop the flow of change isn't Acausality, let alone type 5

 

[Zabazab]

Alright, well if we really aren't going to give him acausality he needs to have layers at the very minimum.

How many would you suggest?

even if he took no damage, he was still sent flying:

This specifically is a bad example because of what I said in the OP:

Just as he said, he was swinging the Dragon Sword, sheath and all. A storm of blows fell upon Regulus. Heavy impacts rang out in quick succession, and the scene that unfolded almost looked like a young kid playing with a doll, a strange continuation of the childish water splashing from before.

But just as Regulus's splashes were actually the destructive manifestations of raw violence, Reinhard's swordplay revealed an inhuman level of martial prowess— each and every blow would have been strong enough to end a fight against any other opponent. The scene beggared belief and defied description.

And on top of that, something had changed in a way that was terribly ominous—

"He's stopped getting knocked back when he gets hit."

Even as Subaru watched, Regulus took a hit to his temple, but his face didn't whip to the side as expected. He simply brushed his hand at it as if shooing away a bug. Reinhard's blows were landing, but Regulus had stopped experiencing any sort of impact. —Re:Zero Volume 19, Chapter 1, Section 3

 

[VortechsTG]

How many would you suggest?

Just one? Unless I'm forgetting something in arc 5 that suggests there would be multiple... Also considering it's indexed as "Time Stop & Invulnerabilty" for one ability would that be one each or one that applies to both?

 

[Zabazab]

Just one? Unless I'm forgetting something in arc 5 that suggests there would be multiple... Also considering it's indexed as "Time Stop & Invulnerabilty" for one ability would that be one each or one that applies to both?

Which feat is it that grants a layer?

 

[MrTayman616]

What about Return By Death and Aldebaran's authority? Both reverse time after all.

I mean, Regulus's ability is always active, but he gets affected by RBD and presumably Aldebaran's ability.

So it's either layered ability for RBD and Alderaban's ability or timestop for Regulus i guess?