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bump, I suppose

also I still don't know where that Daphne having the powers of the Whale came so imma get rid of it
 
The entire scaling is screwed, thought you were going to make a calc or something for the worm, besides from that, what else can be done other than scaling everyone to Rem;s al Human.
 
It's an earthquake, it doesn't really require a calc, we just have to agree on what magnitute it is, there aren't even enough details for a calc of it to be done.
 
At least until the moment the earthquake happened, collapsing the
entrance to the cave.

It started with just a small tremor and a little crack; then the tremors got bigger and the crack got wider until, in a hail of dust and earth, the former entrance became nothing more than a featureless wall.

In the cave it was only Wilhelm, the last of the four children, and Grimm, who had been catching the kids but had fallen in during the quake.

Several hours later, the three of them were still groping through the darkness.
"But there have been so many earthquakes lately… My grandpa told
me a story once. He said the honored Earth Snake that lives in the mountain causes earthquakes. So…"

"But we'll worry about that when we get out. Much as I hate superstitions like the Earth Snake."

The kids had been, in their own way, thinking of the town. There was no point in being angry at them forever about it. But Wilhelm's positive, almost-optimistic mutter caused the boy's eyes to go wide.

"Superstitions?" he asked. "But the Earth Snake is real."

" "

Wilhelm narrowed his eyes at the boy's startled pronouncement. Immediately thereafter, and from directly beside Wilhelm, Grimm gave a sharp ring of his metal plate, touching the nape of his own neck. The echoing sound of metal was the strongest warning he could give.

Grimm had a finely honed sense of danger, and even Wilhelm typically deferred to his perception. Grimm's reaction heralded the onset of true danger.

"Shit, is something—?"

Wilhelm was about to say coming, but before he could ask, it was there. Sword drawn, he held up the light to see deeper into the cave. No sooner had he done so than a shadow passed in front of the bright fluorescence, a surge approaching them through the cavern with a frenzied rumbling.

" !!!"

It crashed and writhed, a creature that filled the entire tunnel ahead of them, many times the size of Wilhelm or his companions. For an instant, they doubted their own sense of reality.

A second later, the great, twisting shadow launched itself at them.

" ?!"

The relentless wave of destruction caused a second collapse
So it can cause earthquakes that can cause collapses in the cave it is by moving and the earthquakes can be regularly felt by the people in the nearby town. I'm not an expert on earthquakes, I think what matters is magnitute at the epicenter when it comes to judging how powerful it is.

There is also that explosion that Ia shielded Subaru from:

Explosion. Yes, an explosion. Explosion was the only word he had for the
supreme might of the destruction wrought.

Such was the power of it that the dragon carriages lined alongside had been blown away and a good chunk of Earlham Village completely leveled. The homes bordering the village square had been engulfed by the spreading fires from the explosion, with flames licking at the familiar scenery.

The blackened, charred objects scattered around the area were partly the dragon carriages and the corpses of their land dragons, but that none were intact made him unable to differentiate between organic and inorganic matter. It was surely a foregone conclusion that the dense scent of burning flesh invading his nostrils was from the land dragons that had perished in the blast.
And idk how I feel about this but female Ros was able to make a pretty huge crater in the groubd but in the manga, the LN doesn't say that happened.
 
Didn't you already calc Ia's explosion and then scrapped it?

As for the earthquakes seems somewhere between a magnitude 4 and 5, not too sure which.

Think the Roswaal crater feat is probably usable, only time we would disregard something like that is if it explictly happens in the LN but the manga or anime exaggerates it, making it way more impressive than the LN.
 
I scrapped the explosion because the I found a comment by Tappei that said that the one at the end of ep 25 was when the crystals were super charged and was much stronger than the incomplete explosion that Ia stopped. In the LN Subaru even though that what Puck meant by stopping it is him going true form, also Emilia would have died by the explosion there.

The crater feat is not stated to happen in the LN, like it isn't. In the manga she leaves it after she misses an attack on Sphinx but the novel just didn't mention if collateral damage was done by that attack at all, kinda like how in the anime Rom shatters that huge block of ice left by Puck and Emilia because they extended the fight, not because it happened in the novel.

Guess we can go for magnitute 4 for the lowball, collapse of caves doesn't speak much to me bacause these scales are all about buildings (there's in a mountain btw if that's of any use).
 
So the explosion destroyed carriages and a good part of the village, can we calc that?

What sort of result would Roswaal crater give? I mean it's sort of nitpicky to exclude it cause it wasn't said to happen in the LN, but i don't remember what our rules are on that sort of thing, we would need some staff input on whether it's usable, same with what magnitude exactly to use for the earthquake.

Also we are getting real close to the forum move, we need to either get this through quick or postpone it.
 
Looking at it seems like like pulverization. Assuminf Ros J to be 162 cm (average female height) we get the crater to be about 1050 cm in diameter. (4/3)*525^3*Pi=6.06e8 cm^3, half that because it's a half-sphere and 3.03e8*214.35=6.5e10 Joules

Dunno if the anime explosion will do us good, it's kinda hard to measure and just plugging a number into the formula will give us a lower result than what's needed for the damage caused. Now, we can see the damage but it's hard to quantify and hard to tell how much was the explosion and how much was actually by the battles happening in tandem.

No idea who to ask for the earthquake though.

Another thing is I remembered, Shaula was able to destroy half of one floor of the tower with one attack iirc. Also Bond of Ice BD is comming out soon and the Emilia there should be about as strong as the current one, hopefully there are feats in there.
 
City block level, which would be consistent.

The forum move is happening soon, and crt's will be shut down for who knows how long, so as i said before, we either put this on halt till everything gets done or get this through fast, which will probably require you asking some staff to comment here.
 
Mean idk if we can link up the EX characters via some scaling chain or not, of we could all the mid tiers would end up relativistic.

Guess we can push the mid tiers back to 8-B right now, I just don't know what to do with the others.

Also no idea who would be knowledgeable on earthquakes, if I just start asking random calc groups half of 'em won't be sure.
 
Well yea Roswaal's feat would only scale to ex characters, but it's consistent with Rem's al Human and if we take the earthquake feat as being magnitude 4.

Mid tiers can be 8-B, Roswaal and the witches would be Low 7-B, ignoring the Emilia nonsense that is, thus the only witch who scales to True Form Puck would be Sehkmet and thus she would only be 7-B, and thus Reid, Satella and Reinhard should be At least City level+ for being above Sehkmet.

Calc members i assume would be knowledgeable on earthquakes.
 
I mean Reinhard did one-shot Puck, his attack also cleared the sky which is pretty big along with just undoing everything that Puck did. So we really would be lowballing him that way.
 
The sky stuff and one shotting is with Reid and don't think we have any way of calc that till season 2.

At the moment we have Reinhard>Reid>Sehkmet>True Form Puck (55 Megatons).

I mean he very causally walked up to and wrecked Puck without Reid so he is obviously above him, does that put him at 100 Megatons is the question. I also think 7-B is a lowball, it's a pretty safe rating though.

This is another thing we probably need more opinions on.
 
Actually the number should be a bit higher because I used the wrong specific heat value (I think) and didn't really factor the air below the clouds, maybe I'll fix it later. Mean Tappei did call Puck a "rounding error" in comparison to Reinhard but eh imma leave it as is.
 
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