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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Discussion Thread 5 (aka rem: zero)

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Well yes i do remember ram stating that rem is stronger than her in that case i am ok with it. I mean i pretty much did all the scaling, i love rem but she is a pain in the ass to scale.
 
Some more things from the translations i am reading, echidna was 19 when she was killed by satella and before her soul died it was sealed away by the dragon, makes sense now cause i always wondered how the dragon was able to get echidna's soul from satella after satella absorbed her.

Satella is said to have coated half the world in shadow which we already knew of and just more mention of how she was unable to be completly killed and was instead sealed, i am sure she has some sort of high level regen, it might be cause she is just so op that no one could match her but i doubt that seeing as reid could hold her off on his own although he would eventually lose if flugel and the dragon didn't help out.

Oh yea ram and garfiels fight was apparently even which forced garfiel to fully transform, ram should have logically used her oni form so it changes nothing.
 
You really love trying to trigger me lol, you already know the answer no to both of those. And if you insist on country level elsa which i am pretty sure you are just joking but on the off chance you are serious, we can drop that scaling from reinhard to elsa and just scale using garfiel and ram.

The shockwaves from the battle between ram and garfiel could be felt by otto and the other escapees who left the area where garfiel was, at least 5 minutes ago and the carriages move at 100km/h which would make them be at least 5 miles away from the battle between garfiel and ram, that's at least a city block away so yea city block level garfiel, ram and elsa and everyone else who scales ain't changing.
 
lel At least you took the bait

joking aside what do you plan on giving the 3 sages ? it's early to talk about them but i have nothing to do right now , it said Reinhard will need his sword in order to fight the dragon , in arc 4 Ekidona said Reid can can fight satella on his own for sometime

it was also said that Roswaal doesn't dare to miss with him though we already know the likes of roswaal are fodders to the dragon
 
Yea the sages are above roswaal so they are at least small country level but that's about all we know about them in terms of there ap, i mean the dragon being able to destroy lugnica seems pretty reasonable to me but that's speculation.

All we know in the way of abilities is the dragon's blood can cure all dieseases and it has soul manipulation and reid can fight satella for a bit, he is a weaker version of reinhard so i would think he has crazy hax resistance as well.

Flugel is a big unknown, he formed a covenant with the dragon, and seeing as shaula his apprentice has space manipulation i would think he does as well but i think he probably has some sort of history manipulation seeing as his tower has contains the history of 400 years ago, actually yea he has history manipulation the tower contains the memories of basically everyone who has ever lived, at least from 400 years ago.
 
Say i tried to look for some fanart of Garfil\Ram but i didn't fine any , maybe because it's so one sided lol , on the other hands there serval Garfiel\Mimi fanarts

Guess Garfiel should just drop Ram she's into clowns more than wolf teen i guess , well he have Mimi so he should be good
 
Ah well i don't care about that ship cause it's so one sided and never gonna sail. When garfiel and ram was fighting cause garfiel wanted to kill subaru, ram asked garfiel if he could drop everything for her and place her above everything else which he couldn't so they fought and ram was killed by garfiel cause of his berserk tiger form. That form is savage it killed everyone, all the villagers who tried to help subaru got rekt hard. Subaru broke like every bone in his body except his legs lol arc 4 rekts him so bad, being eaten alive from the inside out until nothing is left is the worse death he has gotten so far i think.

Then the sizable hare or great rabbit whatever you want to call it came and eat everyone. The white whale was durable and strong but there are like thousands of the great rabbit and it keeps multiplying and i am pretty sure they can eat anything, so they ignore durability, really a pain to deal with.
 
What the hell with the "place your girl over everything " theme in arc 4 ? That what Subaru was tasting in the same arc with Emilia and was asked by beatrice , iirc in interview with tappei when they asked him if he choose love above family he said he will always choose family guess it's his way of showing his ideals through the story

didn't Subaru used the lews to daal with Garfiel everytime ? he could even fight roswaal for some time how did he controlled them again ?
 
Who knows tappei seems to have a thing with his characters being obsessed with another character, roswaal is obsessed with echidna and ram is obsessed with roswaal and places him above eveything and ram told garfiel to put her above everything and that whole thing with beatrice telling subaru to put her above everything.

No he only used the lewis to deal with garfiel once i think, subaru hasn't even meet the lewis yet in the 47 chapters i have read so far. Who could fight roswaal? The lewis? Don't remember him using the lewis to fight roswaal only to fight garfiel and to protect himself from the great rabbit. Don't remember how he controlled them i think he may have gotten it from echidna or something would have to look back on the summary.
 
Bet me it seems to me tappei putted this idea to prove it wrong in the first place , almost every obsession tappei made it seem completely wrong and was rejected\changed through the story

it's started with subaru though emilia is his world and in arc 4 you fine him putting her life on the line for some villagers and even turning her down , Beatrice asked him to put her over everything and he rejcted and they are closer than ever now , Ram was broven worng in arc 4 and it was side effect due to Rem begin Erased , there some author who go by the idea true love can make you sacrifice the world lol and Tappei is against it

Nah dude he used it againts Garfiel twice , and used it againt Rowaal in ch 68-69 when roswaal killed Garfiel and Ram he used it few times
 
How was Garfiel killed in that loop he tried to kill subaru btw ? he tried to kill subaru few times but he never made it but this time he really messed up tappei give his character what coming ti them when they do f_cked up
 
Yea tappei seems to be against that kind of obsessive mind set, but the extent to which he is against it is a bit too much, i mean so many characters are obsessed with another and we have the seemingly main villain being entirely obsessed with the protagonist.

Ah so it was twice, ok then.

So chapter 49 was when satella possessed emilia and enveloped the entire sanctuary and was absorbing stuff, seems this happened twice, in chapter 49 and after the third tea party. Man satella is creepy as hell.
 
Garfiel was killed by the great rabbit in the loop he tried to killed subaru, that thing ate all living things in the sanctuary leaving nothing, no blood or remains.

Look at this line "Envy:
"IloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIl
oveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyouIloveyou—"
The voice is muffled and distance separates them, yet Subaru still hears it as if whispered into his ear. The abnormality of it, practically insinuating the range between them means nothing while ignoring the laws of physics, sickens Subaru.

I had a chuckle out of this and at the same thing disturbed by satella's yandere level.
 
Nah satella possessed Emilia only once which is ch 49-52 which was after the second tea party , third tea party is when all the witches appears and then she comfort subaru telling him not to give up and value his life more "it's satella this time not thw witch of envey "

So Garfeil got killed in the same arc in nearly evertime "ripped aprat by satella , eated by the rabbiet , and getting brutly killed by Garfeil " he also got messed up in arc 4

Even Tappei's fav emilia got her mind broke and went nuts few time adding to she got eated alive twice and possesed by satella .... the dude have no heart lol
 
Could have sworn she appeared twice chapter 49 being the first and after the tea party again cause subaru used petra's rag to cut the shadows, i suppose that's a little ahead of where i am so yea seems to only be chapter 49-52 as you said, i am on chapter 50.

Garfiel didn't get rekt anymore than anyone else everyone got killed by the rabbit and absorbed by satella, subaru went through a whole lot more shit like getting messed up by elsa but yea the rabbit killed him twice so far and i remember it doing it again later on after his chat with roswaal and he commited suicide once to not get absorbed by satella so that's 4 deaths.
 
I did read ch 50-52 and it's when Satella run after subaru and Garfiel and absorb everything around and ripped garfeil apart later , could swear she said "i love you " more than 100 times while she'ss running after man that was super creep and subaru kept telling her "i hate you " as response

IDK is she appeard twice in the same chapter subaru told her he like ekidona more than her as response to his relationship he have with the witches

Subaru always get the most suffering we all knows that
 
I retract what i said garfiel got rekt worse than most people, everyone got killed by either elsa, the rabbit or satella, garfiel got killed by both the rabbit and satella and the way satella killed him was savage, everyone else was just absorbed but to garfiel this happened:

"The shadow's points slid into the injured tiger's wounds, maiming with their
supposedly-incorporeal destruction, lacerating his flesh and spilling forth his blood.
And the massive body of a wholly incised Garfiel, unable to endure the pressure of the shadow
swelling inside him, exploded."

Satella turned her hands intangible and killed him from the inside out, brutal.
 
It's 4chan translations here, it's about 90% translations and 10% summarizing. It has the first 55 chapters so far, well chapter 1-20 was a 80,000 word summary but afterwards it's each chapter translated with some summarizing here and there.

You can find all the translations that have been done so far here
 
No problem, i just finished reading all the translated stuff, the translations come out every day from what i can tell.

Garfiel and Ram fought around chapter 38 i think, but we don't really see that fight, subaru leaves and shockwaves from the battle keep going on and then later on when subaru goes back he sees cuts on trees and what not and a piece of ram's blouse.

The fight was apparently a stalemate which forced garfiel to fully transform into his tiger form.
 
Btw it seems i was worng btw about arc 4 , i just check on it its end on chapter 23 not 33 i missed it for Elsa first appeared to be in ch 23 but it was in ch 23 , 33 is the second

Sorry for worng information while ago

Still pretty sure Next volume will end with Satella wrecking everything which is ch 50-52 , volume 12 will be for ch 53-77 and the rest maybe 2 or 3 volumes "depend " this seems more fitting anyway

Anime used slwo pace for first 3 volumes but fast one for the rest 6 , if the whole anime was runing at the same pace they did arc 6 they can do 12 volumes in 26 episode
 
Just means arc 4 will be 5 or 6 volumes then, also seems tappei has begun writing agai, someone needs to get on translating it.
 
Yeah not much have changed insted of 4-5 it will be at the range of 5-6 "again as long as arc 3 "

the hyped "new continent" is just short story about sloth-chan and sirus past
 
New continent? Sloth and sirius past would be interesting, where did the idea of a new continent come from?
 
Oh you meant new content not continent, i thought that some mysterious new continent was introduced lol.

That summary though of what sirius did she is really messed up in the head and so is regulus.
 
That ship is probably not gonna sail either everyone just seems to have unrequited love.

Question why does echidna hate satella it's not just cause she got killed by her it seems to be more than that like she can't even tolerate satella's existence.
 
Give Garfiel a rest xD Make you think Subaru have a harem while other characters mostly suffer from one sided love lol

Not just satella she also hate Emilia "most due to her similarity to Satella " dunno why all witches got killed by satella but the only who who hate her is Echinda
 
Yea i know she hates emilia too just wonder why she hates satella that much while the other witches don't. I mean i can't blame her, satella is an aberration, she is creepy as hell, well depends if we are talking about satella or the witch of envy, you can reason with satella but the witch of envy is creepy as hell and completely single minded, keeps saying i love you over and over again while absorbing everything, not a pleasant sight.

She knows the the witch of envy and satella aren't the same but she seems to hate them equally, makes sense i guess seeing as satella was the one to absorb all the witches and destroy half the world and not the witch of envy, thinking about satella is just a big wtf i can't understand her.
 
Well she have all the reasons to hate her the other witches are the on who are weirds lol

IMO i don't think subaru would treated satella diffrent than thw witch of envy if she didn't help him in th thied tea party , but then again subaru himself is not right in the head he had the chance to bang Echinda but he didn't lel
 
That's why it's weird though the witch of envy is completely off her rockers, batshit crazy, only cares for subaru. But satella isn't that single-minded she loves subaru yes but she loves him as a person, the witch of envy doesn't care for subaru as a person it's almost as if she thinks of him as her possession she is creepy yandere.

But satella was the one who did the bad stuff like absorbing the other witches and half the world, i really can't tell whether to consider satella good or evil, why did she absorb the witches and half the world is what i want to know.

Echidna has an attraction for subaru and she did say a couple things how they can't do it or something like that like she was expecting it, but it wouldn't be real anyway since it's all part of her dream world, echidna's body is lond dead and when she came back she had the body of a 12 year old so i don't blame subaru for not doing anything.
 
Reading 4chan chapter , it's really funny when Garfiel talk about Ram and Subaru say he just don't get what so good about that women lol , i wonder what was Rem's reaction to Garfiel back in the day , i don't think it was good

He also asked to see Rem serval several times because they said she's is identical to Ram i think Rem could fit with Garfiel more than Rem she's more childish anyway , but when's he's pissed he knows no one "in his beast form at least "

Garfiel was really annoying at first tho he will get alot of hate when people read more into arc 4 though he's coll later
 
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