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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Discussion Thread 5 (aka rem: zero)

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I don't agree with that he only survived cause of felix, if felix wasn't there he would have died, if he had taken the hit from the whale and could still keep going i would agree but he didn't.
 
Again he was going to die if not for felix, just because you can survive an attack and live for a short amount of time doesn't mean you are that durable. I can get hit by a car and survive shortly before dying but it doesn't mean i have wall level durability.
 
That's not the point i was getting at ricardo isn't that durable he was on the verge of dying he didn't withtand the attack from the whale. And that doesn't warrant a CB or MCB rating because again he didn't withstand the attack that's not how durability works.

This is again another dispute on what exactly durability entails as in survive an attack that definition really needs to be expanded upon on what exactly surviving means so we don't constantly have to be having this same argument over and over.

And why are we bothering with ricardo in the first place we know next to nothing about the guy in terms of feats and he doesn't scale to anyone unless we are going to be making assumptions.
 
Wilhelm was said by Tappei to be the strongest character in the whole White Whale task group.

I mean I don't see how people would question the City Block durability rating of characters when we have actual calc for this...
 
So was yet again an attempt to up the characters to CB level sigh you are really persistent lol. Don't see why you are in such a rush to up the characters when we will inevitably get feats later on.

I really don't care if you wanna up them though just ask what gemmy and zero think about it and if they agree then go ahead and up them.
 
Well I had a private talk with some calc members at SpaceBattles (where I originally got RZ calcs from) and they said the calcs seem okay, since you would need a lot of durability to survive city wall-cleaving attacks or getting hit by the tail of a 70,000t whale, which are now internally consistent among multiple peer combatants, but these calcs are just not being used at the moment.

City Block level is not really a big upgrade. We have actual calcs for these and also majority of the characters are Tier 8 already; Elsa had Building level durability originally after all.

Well I'm bored with no more calcs to do, so I thought to bother you for a while with mah City Block level tantrum xP
 
What are you even doing up this late you usually would be asleep hours ago lol.

As for CB since it is consistent i would be ok with it i guess so you finally use that reinhard wall cleaving calc, you have been wanting that for months now.
 
I changed my biological clock. It's 1 pm here actually.

Wow, I can really use that now? Really?

You are the best man in the world, Pegasus. I love you man. I am sure Elsa and Wilhelm are going to love you too, haha!

By the way are we going to update the AP/tiers as well?
 
If we are using the calc then yes the ap and tier would be updated accordingly, except for julius that is cause he is a glass canon he got hurt by petelguese, would julius even scale to all this in the first place? I don't think so but in terms of elsa, garfiel and wilhelm and theresia then yes.
 
How about upgrading Julius' AP only?

Seperate durability for Base/Magic where we give City Block for Ia? He couldn't use it against Betelgeuse after all.
 
Some nitpicks, garfiel didn't kill elsa, the fire in the mansion did but he did outmatch her in combat, also theresia isn't above wilhelm wilhelm was actually overpowering her in arc 5, now that i think about it old wilhelm should be hypersonic+ because he kept up with theresia.
 
The at least rating for yound wilhelm is a pain, we should just leave it at just CB level, yea his young self is superior to his old self but don't think that requires an at least rating.

Either that or take out the at least ratings for theresia she isn't equal to young wilhelm only old wilhelm, young wilhelm>old wilhelm.
 
I think it's standard practice to use At least for >= comparison. Young Wilhelm >= Old Wilhelm. Dunno.

Isn't Young Wilhelm stronger than Theresia only after taking 2 years to practice so that he could kiss her? : P


Q: The strength of the golden age Wilhelm-san is said to be enough to match successive generations of Sword Saints but then, is it okay to recognize that only Reinhard is outstanding among the Sword Saints?

A: Reinhard>Reid>>>Wilhelm (power of love)>successive Sword Saints (Tereshia)>normal youth Wilhelm>>old Wilhelm is what it looks like
 
Which is what i am saying young wilhelm is stronger than theresia so she shouldn't have an at least rating cause she only scales to old wilhelm.

Also if you are gonna put likely higher in the tier remember to also apply it to ap, durability and speed though i think young wilhelm should just plain have an at least rating.
 
But Tappei said Theresia > normal youth Wilhelm > Old Wilhelm.

Isn't that still Theresia >> Old Wilhelm even if we remove youth Wilhelm?

Okay, I just thought you would remove them again because it might look messy.
 
The stat is for power of love wilhelm, making another one for young wilhelm and specifying the 2 would be a pain.

We would have to have 3 stats one for power of love, young and old, you can do that if you want i am going to bed.
 
Ehh let's just go Old | Young and just add 'likely higher' to the young one meaning power of love

Anyway, good night. We can talk about this again later.
 
We can't just fuse power of love and yound cause they are two seperate things and it wound't make sense when we scale theresia to young wilhelm if she is at least CB level while he is at least CB likely higher.

This is what i say we do have 3 keys one for old, young and power of love. We keep old the same as what we have and young as just at least CB level and then for power of love we have at least CB likely higher. We can then just put theresia at least CB but drop the likely higher rating cause she doesn't scale to power of love.
 
The author called it power of love it's after wilhelm decided to beat theresia so it's still young wilhelm, but yea we could with peak.

Also seems volume 11 will be released in december so we have getting new volumes every 1-2 months it seems arc 4 should be done like mid way next year at this pace.
 
Well, "Power of friendship" is a thing in most manga *cough fairy tail*, but we don't really label it as such, but I'm just saying.

Anyways, that's nice. Is this the WN or the LN? I assume WN yes?
 
Vol 11 will be in december it seems arc 4 will be done in mid 2017

power of love is meh just add it as "peak"
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
The stat is for power of love wilhelm, making another one for young wilhelm and specifying the 2 would be a pain.
We would have to have 3 stats one for power of love, young and old, you can do that if you want i am going to bed.
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Bullshit it doesn't work with Subaru when he need it =____=
 
ZERO7772 said:
Vol 11 will be in december it seems arc 4 will be done in mid 2017
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Celestial ninja'd you there.

Celestial Pegasus said:
Also seems volume 11 will be released in december so we have getting new volumes every 1-2 months it seems arc 4 should be done like mid way next year at this pace.
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It's ridiculous btw to finish the "supposedly " the longest arc of re zero in 6 months people were annoying at this arc saying it will take 2-3 years , Emilia fans are so salty now lol

it took 3 months to finish half of the arc xD
 
Don't think i am active more than usual just that you aren't as active.

Meh i am fine with the length, 6 months seems far more reasonable than 2-3 years just hope tappei doesn't cut anything too important.
 
DANG Pegasus replying like a fire xD

it's ridiculous for it to be 6 months tappei was releasing 1 volume each 6 months in arc 3 LOL we may even finish arc 5 in 2017 as it won't be anymore than 4 volumes , arc 4 is already 1\4 done

Ah right it seems he will be back at the WN in janury
 
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