Re:Creators Revision Thread PART 1

[Lancer45Man]

So, it's been quite some time since the last revision happened and unfortunately many things would be changed due to stuffs from anime, Guidebook, Secret Archive DVD, as well as calcs. This Part 1 thread will revise the verse and it's Characters with Part 2 focusing on Altair and Sirius

Mamika
- Limited Power Nullification (Nullified Blitz's Gravity Bullet from 21:30 - 21:33)

- Magic

- Transformation

- Energy Manipulation

- Energy Projection

- Enhanced Senses (All Creations can sense the Aura of other creations)

AP/DC + Dura would be Low 7-C via This Calc

Kanoya
- Energy Projection

- Forcefield Creation (Via his Reflector Field)

- Limited Magic (Via Meteora's Magic Circuit Placed on Gigas Machina Post-Timeskip)

- Large Size (Type 1 via Gigas Machina being 55 Meters Tall)

- Enhanced Senses (All Creations can sense the Aura of other creations)

- Conceptual Attacks (Was stated to get a "Concept Cohesion Boost" in the anime In Ep 18 from 17:41-17:55 which is further supported by the Guidebook which states that they got Conceptual Attack Boost to beat Altair)

AP/DC + Dura Would be downgraded to High 8-C via Assalt's Calc in the comments of this Calc

Yuya
- Non-Corporeal via Hangaku

- Enhanced Senses (All Creations can sense the Aura of other creations)

AP/DC + Dura Would be downgraded to High 8-C

Magane
- Power Bestowal (Gave Back Yuya his Hangaku and seemingly gave Sota a part of her ability)

- Reality Warping and Likely Law Manipulation (was stated by Meteora that her power bends the Laws of Reality permanently from 20:10 - 20:12)

- Enhanced Senses (All Creations can sense the Aura of other creations)

AP/DC + Dura Would be downgraded to High 8-C via Hangaku, but via her Infinite Deceptions it would be Possibly High 2-A as she could summon 5D Lovecraftian Entities that are Stated to Transcend Beyond Time and Space

Aliceteria
- Energy Manipulation and Energy Projection via her Gotz von Berlichingen

- Conceptual Attacks (Was Boosted by Meteora to take out Altair which is supported by the Guidebook which states that they got Conceptual Attack Boost to beat Altair)

- Non-Physical Interaction, Statistics Amplification & Magic (Amplified herself to Altair's level of power and even destroyed Altair's swords and sword barrier which were previously indestructible and her attack on Altair sent a colored shockwave through the Border World Colliseum)

- Enhanced Senses (All Creations can sense the Aura of other creations)


Her AP/DC + Dura Would be downgraded to High 8-C and kept at Low 7-C via Statistics Amplification

Selesia
- Magic (Her World was Stated to use both Magic and Technology effectively in their daily lives)

- Large Size (Type 1 via Vogelchevalier which is 17 Meters in Height)

- Energy Projection

- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3) (Valiant Chant of Honorius/Hachimon Tonko was stated to Warp 3000 Worlds with the Guidebook even supporting that the Concept behind Ionion Aphoria has the power to warp 3000 Worlds)

- Power Nullification and Sealing (the Guidebook states that they got Conceptual Attack Boost to beat Altair with Selesia able to Seal Altair's Movements. Here Movements refers to her Holopsicon Movements rather than Body Movements as we see that when Selesia Traps Altair in the Yellow Cube, her Swords fall into the Ground Instantly referring to her powers being temporarily nullified as Altair Powered her way out in the next episode)

- Non-Physical Interaction (Both Charon and Selesia were shown to fight and cut through Non-Corporeal beings/ghosts from 19:06-19:16)

- Paralysis Inducement (Christos Chronos was stated to Freeze Someone Like a Crystal which was used by Selesia during her Self-Destruction)

Her AP/DC + Dura Would be downgraded to High 8-C

Hikayu
- Forcefield Creation (Via Cosmic Hell Fist)

Her AP/DC + Dura Would be downgraded to At least High 8-C

Blitz
Lol Sorry nothing here Folks

His AP/DC + Dura Would be downgraded to High 8-C

An Important Note is that all the Speed of the Creations barring Altair and Sirius Would be More or Less the Same with their Peak Speed being Hypersonic via this calc

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Looks good!

However, the speed calc needs to be evaluated by a calc member like Magic Splash Flare was. Kep gave me his approval for mine even though he didn't comment.

 

[Lancer45Man]

Looks good!

However, the speed calc needs to be evaluated by a calc member like Magic Splash Flare was. Kep gave me his approval for mine even though he didn't comment.

I have posted in the calc in the Calc Evaluation thread and only Celestial commented xP

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Yeah, sometimes it takes time.

 

[Lancer45Man]

Would Selesia become a contender for Stronkest High 8-C after the revisions?? OvO

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Would Selesia become a contender for Stronkest High 8-C after the revisions?? OvO

No SCP 682 is the current champion and lol 1B immortality and adaptation

 

[Lancer45Man]

Ah shoot I forgot about that xP

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Altair probably remains queen of Low 7-C tho.

 

[Lancer45Man]

Altair probably remains queen of Low 7-C tho.

True. If 1440 didn't exist, she'd have gotten the spot easily.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Why is 1440 even Low 7-C? He caused someone else's nuke to go off. That's like saying that Truman is Low 7-C for dropping the Japan bombs.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

For the same reason that Milo Murphy is High 7-A, it went off because of him

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Is indirect and conventionally unobtainable feats actually a valid tier?

Edit: Also Murphy is different since causing a volcano to erupt is different than making a bomb detonate. They aren't comparable.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

For the most part yes albeit 1440 is outdated and it should be much higher but thats for another time, not derailing this thread

 

[Lancer45Man]

So 1440 gonna get updated soon???

Low 7-C spot for Altair Then? Cool.

 

[Lancer45Man]

Bump

 

[Assaltwaffle]

I think this looks good, tbh. If you want you could go get Celestial, since he is also a supporter of the verse.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Looks fine

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Quick semi-related question, do we have any solid base stats for Magane yet?

 

[Lancer45Man]

Nah. Just that she can keep up with Yuya in terms of Speed and Agilty

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Alright. If it matters at all I think this all looks pretty legit. Thumbs up.

 

[Lancer45Man]

I haven't used Magane's Spinoff Series which are Canon and seem to give her additional abilities but 80% are not available online for free and translated sadly.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Oh god, I want that so bad...

 

[Lancer45Man]

Yeah, it just shows what Magane did after she was last seen in Ep 20 in the Airport. Issue #1 and #3 have been translated only so far and she's been brutal in those two issues.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Magane is already haxxed as crap; how much more does she need?

Then again if someone would just shut up and fight her she wouldn't be able to make her lie real.

 

[Lancer45Man]

Lol that's sad because she's broken af but has a massive weakness

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Well, if everyone is OK with these changes we can begin to implement them.

 

[Lancer45Man]

I agree

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Also I just realized that High 2-A was proposed for Magane. That's going to be a big nope. The Creations are bent to fit the real universe, and her ability should also have this limitation.

 

[Lancer45Man]

Ah well it's okay then I suppose