Raven Branwen vs Amber

[BruceTheBatman]

Who wins?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Raven pretty easily, they have the same powers but Raven is WAY more skilled

 

[Schnee_One]

Cinder is repeatedly stated to surpass Amber, who Raven fought on par with.

Raven wins for that reason.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Cinder is never stated to have surpassed Amber.

 

[Schnee_One]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1257678?useskin=oasis

Not so much stared but definitely implied.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

No, she was just talking about Pyrrha. Her words were "You could never have imagined", not "No one could have imagined", suggesting this is just a case of her narcissism that Raven proves to be incorrect in the next episode after she pulls this again on Vernal.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Cinder is never stated to have surpassed Amber.

Cinder literally said that in the short time she had Amber's power she was able to use it in ways Amber would never be able to imagine

 

[BruceTheBatman]

When? oVo

She was talking to and about Pyrrha, the prospective new maiden. Her words were "you could never have imagined", not "They couldn't have imagined" or "No one could have imagined"

 

[TheRustyOne]

Amber lost to Base Cinder, Mercury, and Emerald.

Sorry to say but Raven destroys her.

 

[Akreious]

They share the same power, but Amber was incapable of training and perfecting the art of combat when Raven attempted to train her. So Raven wins for simply being MUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH more experienced.