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Why would Rem be ANYWHERE on the battlefield??? This is Ram vs. Sukuna. I know Sukuna is a JJK character but he's not getting jumped here.
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Ram VS Sukuna (11-5-1) GRACE
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EldemadeDityjon
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That's for infinity not for others Sukuna slashes were nulled by Higuruma DA. Gojo's red and blue were nulled by Sukuna without Touching.
Zabazab
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Check Ram's equipment lol
So you mean to block attacks then.
EldemadeDityjon
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Yeah
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It's optional and OP didn't specify if they have Rem. Regardless, the existence of Domain Amplification poses a BIG roadblock for Ram
Zabazab
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She can't be 8-A without Rem so she's absolutely there.
Domain Amplification helps reduce damage but it changes little about the situation over all, particularly since Ram is completely safe to snipe at Sukuna, spam attacks, or lock him in with AOE.
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What? Domain Amplification is Power Null LOL
Fezzih_007
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Oh yeah true, she should be capable to use Rem for more than a few meters... Probally, not sure If she can share her pain with Rem over more than kilometers. She probally could, since Subaru can using his Cor Leonis, so okay.
But then again, the OP din't say where she is, so lol.
Her attack range is not trought, is just a few meters.
Not really, Ram is tier 8-A in this battle, a tier Ram can only use If she have Rem as optimal equipament. So she is sonewhere.
Zabazab
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I'm aware, and it has only been shown to weaken incoming attacks when used defensively. Sukuna still took damage from Red when he used DA, but it was mitigated.
Her attack range– with Clairvoyance– is up to 1000 miles.
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Actually, what are the votes at let me look
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I think Sukuna has 7 right now
EldemadeDityjon
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Nonetheless SBA range would be 4KM at best. Rem is listed as Optional equipment so She can be used I don't have any problem.
Yuji was able to fight for few hours during Shibuya incident while he was still weaker than 3F Sukuna. Sukuna has more stamina than that. Can Rem support last for Hours for Ram? From the sniping attack it looks like it would take a toll on Ram.
Yuji was able to fight for few hours during Shibuya incident while he was still weaker than 3F Sukuna. Sukuna has more stamina than that. Can Rem support last for Hours for Ram? From the sniping attack it looks like it would take a toll on Ram.
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that was 10 years old ram, now she should be able to spam it
EldemadeDityjon
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Scan states she is not true oni or something anymore so it's taking toll on her though?
Anyway what's her best Stamina feats when she has Rem for support
Zabazab
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That's without the support of her horn, which Rem acts as a replacement for. She can realistically use Rem this way as long as she feels like it, but she'd be unwilling to go to the extent that Rem suffers permanent damage from the backlash.
She also has the option to drop down to 2 Shackles for an extended ranged battle, or jump up to 4 Shackles for a fast, decisive battle.
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speedster352
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Domain amplification allowed sukuna to survive purple and can reduce damage from CE attacks and neutralizes cursed techniques.
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Re:Zero: Warriors and The Flow Method
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Still isnt comparable because Ram's precog is superior to the kind that can be used to straight up read people via their breathing, muscle movements etc
Heck its easier than if she was straight up reading his mind. What else do you even need at that point
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My guy. If the techniques you're claiming are one of Ram's biggest wincons don't work on Sukuna via power null then her wincon is kinda ruined don't you think?Re:Zero: Warriors and The Flow Method
Still isnt comparable because Ram's precog is superior to the kind that can be used to straight up read people via their breathing, muscle movements etc
Heck its easier than if she was straight up reading his mind. What else do you even need at that point
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Does he have feats of powernulling type 8 abilities granted by an abstract existence that has created the world itself and is literally the source of every power system? Didnt think so
Fezzih_007
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Man... What are you talking about?
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What??? What do these words mean
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Its 4 30 am, Od Laguna btw is the source of claravoyance so he would need to directly interact with that mf
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I wasn't talking about the clairvoyance... I was talking about the wind attacks
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Arkenis
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Again idk why I keep having to say these basic JJK things, but if he does domain amp he can't use ct, not to mention the use of domain amp is only seen in his 20f key not his 2/3 key. Furthermore, domain amp is specifically to counter cursed techs not other abilities outside of the verse.
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Sadly verse equalization doesn’t work that way
Arkenis
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It does? a power system has to be similar in order for equalization to work. Cursed energy and mana are not the same from my understanding and even if mana in the verse is like ce then my other two points still stand as counters to its use in this match.
Zabazab
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Stop. Stop doing this. This is double-not-true.
If you're referring to Clairvoyance, Domain Amplification absolutely is not stopping it.
DA has only been shown to allow the user to nullify defensive CTs with a sure-hit, and weaken CT attacks by blocking them with DA.
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I wasn't, doesn't seem reasonable for it to stop clairvoyance I was more so talking about the wind attacks
EldemadeDityjon
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That works based on killing intent. Maki senses doesn't need that.Re:Zero: Warriors and The Flow Method
Scans in the profile and explanations don't show any superiority of her predictions above Maki's. How does reading the opponent's moments with keen eyesight equate to reading the whole environment change? Maki's precognition enables her to dodge attacks which are above her paygrade. Maki's analytical prediction works based on changes in the atmosphere. I don't understand how you are claiming Ram's prediction is better. She can dodge attacks without even seeing, not with bloodlust like the above or something, just with small changes in the atmosphere. Also you are taking out of context for "better than reading people's mind" it's more of an narrative trying to hype that ability not the literal.Still isnt comparable because Ram's precog is superior to the kind that can be used to straight up read people via their breathing, muscle movements etc
Heck its easier than if she was straight up reading his mind. What else do you even need at that point
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Skill comparisons I believe
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Do you need me to explain to you why method of sensing something is different from how much and what they can precog?
I do not care if Maki doesn't "need" to sense her opponents attacks, first of all that seems to basically be untrue, she just senses the changes in her environments. Which isn't that different from what Ram does normally without claravoyance, and in no way shape or form is her AP superior to Ram's.
Do you serioùsly think being able to sense environmental changes (which btw is an ESP feat NOT an AP feat) is better than reading their opponents minds? Do you have no sense of shame while claiming that?
Also worth mentioning that Old Wilhelm who is just slightly above her in the skill chain can actually dodge/counter attacks without needing to sense them at all. In fact Garfiel and Julius can as well and they are below her in the skill chain, meaning she probably can as well.
Enough straying, Sukuna is not comparable to Ram. She takes every single category here, DA isn't available without further proof and DE isnt in character for him to start off with fast enough before Ram either snipes, Al fura's or wind jail his neck to hell
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You should vote for the stronger, more skilled, massively smarter, higher damaging, more likely to win character (as our president)Me going to sleep waiting for grace to end.
Arkenis
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Can people who keep coming in here voting on Sukuna read Ram's page and the links provided?
Lets stop tryna wank Sukuna here. Other stuff Ram has is her IA, and her perception manipulation, and can judge one's speed and trajectory.
Ya are just blatantly ignoring the extreme advantages Ram has here when Sukuna has not even half of these sensory capabilities at all.
Ram's skill is also greater than Sukuna's and Sukuna's skill is heavily restricted due to his lack of curse energy in this key as well, the main thing that lets him flex his skill so much.
Ram's sixth sense lets her sense a shift in wind, something similar to what Maki does where she can sense the changes in the air around her. They nearly the same in function.
Ram then also can sense hostility
And can discern what one is thinking from their face
And can sense one's presence
Lets stop tryna wank Sukuna here. Other stuff Ram has is her IA, and her perception manipulation, and can judge one's speed and trajectory.
Ya are just blatantly ignoring the extreme advantages Ram has here when Sukuna has not even half of these sensory capabilities at all.
Ram's skill is also greater than Sukuna's and Sukuna's skill is heavily restricted due to his lack of curse energy in this key as well, the main thing that lets him flex his skill so much.
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