Raiden Shogun Second Story Quest additions

[Nehz_XZX]

I've noticed that there is no Flight on the Raiden Shogun profile and the Raiden Shogun flies the entire time while in her transformed state. There is also the instance of the Raiden Shogun taking steps in the air during the second chapter of the Archon Quests.

 

[Confluctor]

Good catch.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Good catch.

I've added Flight to her profile. Vision users already have Limited Flight and this is extended to Archons like Venti and Zhongli who don't Visions in order to use the associated abilities. This and the Raiden Shogun's own feats should make this small addition rather uncontroversial.

 

[Confluctor]

Yeah that's fine ofc

 

[Nehz_XZX]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/concluded-raiden-shogun-vs-ghirahim.130118/

https://vsbattles.com/threads/minamoto-no-raikou-vs-raiden-shogun-concluded.127237/

These two could potentially be removed. Seems a bit outdated. The first got FRA trained hard, so that too lol. But yeah, IMO these two could be removed since she got a lot more stuff since then

We still have this to discuss.

I've applied the changes to the profile. Any input regarding what can be improved upon would be appreciated.

If someone has something to say about this and wants to discuss that instead, then that is fine as well.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Bump.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

The Raiden Shogun vs Raikou was due to Raiden not being able to kill Raikou before She starts ramping up and one shot her with her mystery killing ability thingy.
time stop won't do a thing since she resist it. iirc she also resist Space hax durability neg. but the sheer potency of her musou no hitotachi that she used to killed orobachi is enough to Kill or one shot Raikou too.
so I think nothing changes even if they fight with updated raiden profile

ghirahim I have no idea because I wasn't there

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Checked the Ghirahim one it seems that one was won over because of Overwhelming fear aura which Ghirahim has either to teleport away to spam magic
or get overwhelmed before Raiden obliterates him paired with better mastery with skills and weapons. though this is likely a stomp
with how Raiden skill gets massively boosted by 500 years of equal fighting
so In my opinion it should be removed and deemed outdated

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Checked the Ghirahim one it seems that one was won over because of Overwhelming fear aura which Ghirahim has either to teleport away to spam magic
or get overwhelmed before Raiden obliterates him paired with better mastery with skills and weapons. though this is likely a stomp
with how Raiden skill gets massively boosted by 500 years of equal fighting
so In my opinion it should be removed and deemed outdated

Based on Ghirahim's profile it doesn't seem like as if he has counters to things like Durability Negation, Time Stop and the effects of prolonged exposure to elemental energy.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Bump.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Checked the Ghirahim one it seems that one was won over because of Overwhelming fear aura which Ghirahim has either to teleport away to spam magic
or get overwhelmed before Raiden obliterates him paired with better mastery with skills and weapons. though this is likely a stomp
with how Raiden skill gets massively boosted by 500 years of equal fighting
so In my opinion it should be removed and deemed outdated

@Confluctor Confluctor, would you agree with that?

 

[Confluctor]

I think both should be removed still

 

[Nehz_XZX]

I think both should be removed still

I guess I can remove the Ghirahim match for now and we can continue talking about the match against Raikou.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Bump.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

The Raiden Shogun vs Raikou was due to Raiden not being able to kill Raikou before She starts ramping up and one shot her with her mystery killing ability thingy.
time stop won't do a thing since she resist it. iirc she also resist Space hax durability neg. but the sheer potency of her musou no hitotachi that she used to killed orobachi is enough to Kill or one shot Raikou too.
so I think nothing changes even if they fight with updated raiden profile

ghirahim I have no idea because I wasn't there

So, any arguments for that specific match to be removed to contrast this or does nobody have something to add?

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Bump.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

The Raiden Shogun vs Raikou was due to Raiden not being able to kill Raikou before She starts ramping up and one shot her with her mystery killing ability thingy.
time stop won't do a thing since she resist it. iirc she also resist Space hax durability neg. but the sheer potency of her musou no hitotachi that she used to killed orobachi is enough to Kill or one shot Raikou too.
so I think nothing changes even if they fight with updated raiden profile

ghirahim I have no idea because I wasn't there

Bump.

 

[Confluctor]

Feels like a stomp to me, no? Like against raiden. She can't do anything to kill her, but gets stompped after the other woman unlocks something or somesuch idk.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

iirc the mystery killing ability of raikou applies to her melees if Raiden is considered divine being or connected to such

Raiden is a divine being so yeah she can one shot without using her Noble phantasm which makes it likely a stomp

 

[Confluctor]

So, yeah, I think it should be removed.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

iirc she also resist Space hax durability neg. but the sheer potency of her musou no hitotachi that she used to killed orobachi is enough to Kill or one shot Raikou too.

Wouldn't this still be an option for her or would that still be a stomp even with that?

 

[Confluctor]

Looking at the recent 4D invulnerability thread, her loss against the Fate character seems even more of a stomp.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Looking at the recent 4D invulnerability thread, her loss against the Fate character seems even more of a stomp.

Okay, I guess I can just remove the match then in which case there is nothing to discuss in this thread anymore once that is done.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

I've removed the match, so this CRT has been concluded unless someone brings up something to discuss.

 

[Confluctor]

I will close it if everything is done then.